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#546 of 716 Liberty Ford, The Worst Customer Service is in Sales Dept.
Mar 21, 2011 (9:03 pm)
A bad experience with a dealer (Liberty Ford at Solon, OH) can change your mind about a vehicle. I envy the ones that waited for your Ford Explorer. I wish I could had the same experience, I just took a leftover and even worst they treated us like garbage. Now I have ...well my husband has his Ford Explorer and I hope to have my Honda Civic 2011. Customer Service is key for a business, if you treat like "garbage" to your clients, then there is something called "word of mouth". Then $800 are nothing when you loose just ONE future sale.
#547 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [wwest]
Mar 22, 2011 (5:07 am)
Willard - we've given you multiple examples where DI alone doesn't buy you the type of FE improvement you're imagining. Your theory simply isn't reality.
#548 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [akirby]
Mar 22, 2011 (6:51 am)
What am I "imagining..?"
Every little bit helps...?
#549 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [akirby]
Mar 22, 2011 (7:34 am)
3.6L V6 SFI 17/26 263HP
3.6L V6 DFI 18/26 304HP
Simple math indicates the 3.6L DFI engine could be reduced in displacement volume by >15% and still match the HP of the non-DFI engine.
15% savings at the gas pump...?
#550 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [explorerx4]
Mar 22, 2011 (8:21 am)
explorerx4 - if the new Explorer is too big for you, check out the Jeep Grand Cherokee. If I didn't need a 3rd row of seats, the Jeep dealer would be the 1st place I head to.
#551 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [fordcustsrvc]
Mar 22, 2011 (8:25 am)
Thanks Seni. Are you talking about the EcoBoost 4cyl? Id love all the gas mileage I can get, but I read the 4cyl Eco Boost Explorers will be FWD only. One of the primary reasons (if not the #1 reason for most in the Northeast) of having an SUV is because of the 4 wheel drive.
#554 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [nyccarguy]
Mar 22, 2011 (9:18 am)
The "EcoBoost" 4 cylinder will probably have more than adequate HP/torque for acceleration purposes, "GAS-GUZZLING" mode, especially less the weight of the F/awd system. But when it comes to simply cruising along at a reasonably constant speed it MUST run in detuned/derated mode, <10:1 CR rather than the DFI standard of 12:1, and therefore will probably struggle, lowering the hwy FE dramatically, to hold a constant speed even on level ground. Even less the F/awd system weight the new Ford Explorer is still simply to big and heavy for a 4 banger, and certainly not one running in detuned/derated mode. So I suspect that configuration will never see the light of day in a dealer's showroom.
#555 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [wwest]
Mar 22, 2011 (9:51 am)
Actually fuel savings on the Explorer will be 20 to 22%.