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#541 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [nyccarguy]
Mar 21, 2011 (11:20 am)
This is Seni with Ford Customer Service. Since you are only in the research stages, I would like to let you know that the 2012 Explorer can be expected late summer. The 2012 Explorer will feature improved fuel economy over the 3.5L V6. We are very excited about this Explorer and again expect that it will be available late summer 2011. When you begin the shopping stage, please be sure to visit www.Ford.com/Incentives, at your convenience, for incentives in your area.
Ford Customer Service Division
#542 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [fordcustsrvc]
Mar 21, 2011 (11:50 am)
Wow, the 2011 Explorer isn't even dry behind the ears and you're already pedaling the 2012...?
Does that mean something went awry with the 2011..?
Does that mean the upcoming 2012 Explorer will getting a more fuel efficient N/A V6 with DFI..? With the performance gain of DFI you could even downsize the engine displacementvolume to get even better FE while still holding the HP/torque at the current V6 level.
Or are you still in the mode of foisting off the DETUNED/DERATED GAS-GUZZING GASHOGISH EcoBoost (TwinForce) I4 as being environmentally conscious and fuel efficient...??
With gas prices headed north of $4 I would think you would begin reconsidering marketing to the "boy-racer" mentality types as that market is getting smaller by the moment.
#543 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [wwest]
Mar 21, 2011 (3:19 pm)
DFI is not the end-all-be-all of automotive technology.
Anyway, if I had my way, I'd be hauling my family in an 84-85 Olds Custom Cruiser wagon with the diesel V8 and 200-4R transmission. 30+mpg and 8 seat belts. Governors and injector pumps were faultless by then.
But the wife says no minivans, no station wagons, and most especially nothing with woodgrain.
So the Explorer gets the best mileage of any vehicle that seats seven and still has primarily US content. 85% according to this month's issue of C&D. Sadly the outgoing 2010 Explorer was 90% US content. But 85% is better than every other SUV available today. Talk about setting the curve!!!
#544 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [occupant1]
Mar 21, 2011 (8:04 pm)
"..DFI is not the end-all-be-all of automotive technology..."
I sincerely hope not...
But it is the current next step...or one of....
I'm voting for SuperCharging as the new step.
#545 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [occupant1]
Mar 21, 2011 (8:07 pm)
Have you not noted that diesel is now "value-priced"...?
#546 of 716 Liberty Ford, The Worst Customer Service is in Sales Dept.
Mar 21, 2011 (9:03 pm)
A bad experience with a dealer (Liberty Ford at Solon, OH) can change your mind about a vehicle. I envy the ones that waited for your Ford Explorer. I wish I could had the same experience, I just took a leftover and even worst they treated us like garbage. Now I have ...well my husband has his Ford Explorer and I hope to have my Honda Civic 2011. Customer Service is key for a business, if you treat like "garbage" to your clients, then there is something called "word of mouth". Then $800 are nothing when you loose just ONE future sale.
#547 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [wwest]
Mar 22, 2011 (5:07 am)
Willard - we've given you multiple examples where DI alone doesn't buy you the type of FE improvement you're imagining. Your theory simply isn't reality.
#548 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [akirby]
Mar 22, 2011 (6:51 am)
What am I "imagining..?"
Every little bit helps...?
#549 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [akirby]
Mar 22, 2011 (7:34 am)
3.6L V6 SFI 17/26 263HP
3.6L V6 DFI 18/26 304HP
Simple math indicates the 3.6L DFI engine could be reduced in displacement volume by >15% and still match the HP of the non-DFI engine.
15% savings at the gas pump...?
#550 of 716 Re: Interested in an Explorer [explorerx4]
Mar 22, 2011 (8:21 am)
explorerx4 - if the new Explorer is too big for you, check out the Jeep Grand Cherokee. If I didn't need a 3rd row of seats, the Jeep dealer would be the 1st place I head to.