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#719 of 1324 2012 Ford Focus....
Sep 18, 2011 (1:59 pm)
Well, I just wanted to offer up an opinion on the 2012 Focus.
I have a 2008 Mazda 3 Sport Hatch. Currently at the local Mazda dealer (also a Ford dealer) for an electrical issue covered by warranty...
I've had 4 rentals each time the M3 has been there:
2011 Ford Fusion (in my opinion, a piece of )
2011 Ford Crown Victoria (leathered out cop car)
2011 Mercury Grand Marquis (same thing)
2012 Ford Focus SEL 5 door
I'm pretty impressed by the Focus. Drives very well, holds the road, and even in the basic SEL trim (no other options except power moonroof), it's a pretty decent car. Lots of equipment (basic SYNC stereo, dual zone AC, power win/lock/mirror) and mostly easy to use.
Three issues I've had that would keep the Focus off the shopping list... Two are a Ford fix and the other is just getting used to it...
BIG ISSUE - the "sport" 6 speed automatic transmission with shift buttons. When in 'drive', the transmission goes into upper gears too quickly - you're in 2nd gear before you cross an intersection from stop. Sometimes, the transmission lurches into gear and it doesn't shift smoothly. This is a Ford fix - they need to reprogram the controllers to not shift so soon.
Minor issue - the Cruise control. With My Mazda, I turn the cruise on or off with a button, and it's always ready, in "stand by" until I set a speed. With the Focus (with every Ford I've recently driven) the cruise control system shuts off each time you shut the engine off. I have to push the control to turn the system "ON" each and every time and THEN I get to set speed. Ford, can you please just have an "on/off" setting for the cruise, instead...? Just like My Mazda, My 2001 PT Cruiser, My mom's 2002 PT Cruiser and our 1994 Town & Country van...?
Third issue - have to get used to it - there are WAY TOO MANY buttons, levers, switches and controls on the steering wheel. There are 2 four point controllers with an "OK" button in each - one controls instrument panel display (trip computer, mileage controls, etc.) and the other is for the center console display (setting radio & other functions). Then, on each side of the wheel, there is another 4 way rocker switch - one for the cruise control, one for the radio controls, with a pull "paddle" behind each (cruise is for resume, radio is for voice recognition of SYNC system). There are just too many buttons covering too many functions right there and they're not the easiest to use at first.
Other than those few things, the Focus is a good car and a great value for the money. From what I've read, stay away from the MyFord Touch system (the bigger touch screen system) for the radio & AC, plus GPS. And there are others that have commented on the transmission shifting issues - with many dealers responding that it's just a "learning curve" - but it's still an annoyance.
#720 of 1324 Re: 2012 Ford Focus.... [lmcdrm]
Sep 18, 2011 (2:23 pm)
The transmission is different - it's a dry clutch system with two manual transmissions linked together. Most of the problems seem to go away after 1000 miles or so. The dry clutch design makes the tranny smaller and more fuel efficient but it's not as smooth as the wet clutch system. And I'm sure the programming is biased towards mileage.
Maybe they will come out with new logic that will make it feel smoother. You can put it in S mode (still automatic) and it will hold gears longer and downshift sooner - that makes it better for some.
#721 of 1324 Re: 2012 Ford Focus.... [lmcdrm]
Sep 19, 2011 (6:09 am)
I really doubt Ford will reprogram the tranny for more agressive shifting, especially right now with the focus on fuel mileage.
I'm a bit more interested in the back story. Did they simply toss the Focus at you? Or did you specifically request it? I'd be surprised that they're using the Focus as loaners, given the supposed shortage and high demand. The SEL is especially hard to come by.
Maybe Ford finally overcame the supplier hiccups that were hurting production. I am finally seeing more of them on the road now-- probably about 3 or 4 per week, compared to 1 per week less than a month ago.
#722 of 1324 Re: Ford Fusion [FEHarper]
Sep 20, 2011 (11:04 am)
I read your comments about the Myfordtouch with interest. This un-needed and complicated technology is keeping me from buying Ford. According to JD Powers, others agree. I always wanted my computer to be as reliable and user friendly as my car, now Ford has made the car as user-unfriendly and unreliable as the computer. To me, this is a step backward and the only advantage seems to be in advertising.
#723 of 1324 Re: Ford Fusion [jimc16]
Sep 20, 2011 (11:26 am)
You have valid concerns, and there is a simple fix: don't get the technology. Ford mytouch is only built until the higher trim level (the Focus Titanium). Mytouch is optional with the lower trims (SE and SEL).
There seems to be a growing misperception that mytouch is standard with all Ford models.
#724 of 1324 $50 Ford Focus Rebate
Sep 20, 2011 (11:52 am)
Has anyone gotten the $50 rebate to test drive a Focus? The website someone gave me in here doesn't work and since we want to test drive the Focus and the Fiesta, might as well get the $50 to do so. Any help would be appreciated! I am,
#725 of 1324 Re: Ford Fusion [gambit293]
Sep 20, 2011 (2:07 pm)
Can you get everything that is offered in the Titanium as options on the SEL not including mytouch of course? If not, then what if one wants a Titanium version but doesn't want the electronic goblins? I have a feeling it's not even just mytouch but also the SYNC that a lot of people don't like and that is standard on the SE and SEL, no? I really don't know for sure.
I feel his pain as I really don't like sunroofs. I don't like the lost headroom or the initial and potentially follow on expense. However, it's impossible to get the high end versions of many cars without getting the sunroof in the "package" so I pay my dime and put up with them but don't like it.
#726 of 1324 Re: Ford Fusion [m6user]
Sep 20, 2011 (4:22 pm)
Sync is fine. It's MFT that has issues, although the latest version seems to be quite stable. A totally new version rewritten from scratch will be here in a few months.
Some people just aren't going to like this type of interface. I expect some minor tweaks but the basics will still be there. You can still get a loaded SEL without it and add the handling package yourself.
#727 of 1324 Re: Ford Fusion [jimc16]
Sep 20, 2011 (6:11 pm)
I do understand after reading various posts that many were having trouble with MFT/sync , but I have just bought my car and have had no real problems other than the extra dialogue that seems unnecessary. I have been using voice transcription for over ten years and understand the limitation of the software and the need to enunciate carefully. I do it naturally. I have had no glitches -like unexepected crashes and suspect these were fixed with most recent updates. If you use this system as it is intended, you will not need to take your eyes off the road. It is like conversing with a passenger. By the way, the Titanium handling package with 18 in wheels simply handles better than any car I have driven. My suggestion for Ford is to eliminate the need to say, for instance, "destination/POI" etc after the navigation command - POI should be sufficient. Some other steps could be eliminated that aren't needed. These menus will be simplified on future upgrades hopefully.
#728 of 1324 Re: Ford Fusion [FEHarper]
Sep 21, 2011 (5:03 am)
There is an option for abbreviated menus - not sure that would help with the POI command though.