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#442 of 1316 Re: Just spent 4 hours poking n prodding Focus [lcw1] by snakebit

May 04, 2011 (7:46 pm)

Replying to: lcw1 (May 04, 2011 9:51 am)
Coincidently, we have been waiting\watching for low mileage Jetta TDI's every since they returned to our shores a couple of years ago. It WAS definately going to be her next car. (for exactly the reasons you mention)
 
2 problems though.......
First, the ones currently showing up are holding their value so well that they hardly could be considered a steal. Of course this is very good news if you are the purchaser of a new Jetta TDI!
 
Second, unfortunately, the early new TDI's (post 2006 models) are not exactly earning a reputation of high reliability? Some are having serious issues. (TDI forums are great too) There are signs VWA may be getting a handle on the bigger issues with the latest release. But it will take time to know for sure.
 
Admittedly the new Focus is likely healing her wounds of dissapointment in not being as excited about a used TDI as she once was. Combine that with 3 different Ford escorts she has had great luck with over the past 30 years, the Ford might be easier for her to trust. (she loves cars. She is too funny)
 
(I am a Ford Super Duty Redneck. The whole family is. Have been for years. But we have ventured outside the Blue Oval on a few Infinities and Toyotas)
 
And finally, that Focus that she likes STICKERS at 23K. Likely can be had for closer to 21. Frankly, it was much more FUN equipped so nicely than a 21K Fusion or Accord. And her sister has a loaded Civic that cost even more that she finds uninspiring.
 
Regardless, I love it when something gets her that jazzed. She is pretty unflappable. The new Focus tickled her fancy. Thank you Ford. You make this easier for me.

#443 of 1316 Re: Just spent 4 hours poking n prodding Focus [lcw1] by humblepatience

May 05, 2011 (9:01 am)

Replying to: lcw1 (May 04, 2011 9:51 am)
So let's compare the Sonata Limited vs the
Sonata limited: 28.5K
 
Focus Titanium /w Premium package (leather, etc), parking tech, and nav: 26.75K
 
So a price difference of around 2k.
 
Pros of the focus:
 
Rain sensing whipers
Everything is voice command
Traffic, weather, etc deliveried via voice command
Pandora + Sticher integration
Vehicle health reports
Hatchback (utility)
Paralell parks itself
 
Sonata pluses:
Bigger back seat

#444 of 1316 Re: Just spent 4 hours poking n prodding Focus [humblepatience] by shipo

May 05, 2011 (9:30 am)

Replying to: humblepatience (May 05, 2011 9:01 am)
Now perform that same comparison between the Focus and the Mazda3 and you'll see a much different story. The Mazda has nearly as many goodies as the Focus, can be had with a stick for all trim levels, has much more rear seat room, and is thousands less. What's not to like.

#445 of 1316 Re: Just spent 4 hours poking n prodding Focus [shipo] by robr2

May 05, 2011 (11:49 am)

Replying to: shipo (May 05, 2011 9:30 am)
What's not to like.
 
That big, buck toothed grin on the Mazda!!

#446 of 1316 Re: Just spent 4 hours poking n prodding Focus [robr2] by shipo

May 05, 2011 (12:09 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (May 05, 2011 11:49 am)
On that account, I happen to agree. Here's hoping the "face-lifted" 2012 Mazda3 presents a better looking schnozzle to the world.
 
FWIW, while I much prefer the looks of the Focus over the Mazda3, the fact remains that the Mazda is a far better thought out car (or at least will be when the new SkyActiv engines and transmissions debut). If I had to choose between the two there's little doubt in my mind I'd choose the Mazda in spite of how good the Focus looks.

#447 of 1316 Re: Just spent 4 hours poking n prodding Focus [shipo] by robr2

May 05, 2011 (12:47 pm)

Replying to: shipo (May 05, 2011 12:09 pm)
On that account, I happen to agree. Here's hoping the "face-lifted" 2012 Mazda3 presents a better looking schnozzle to the world.
 
Nah - looks like they just gave it a mouthguard!!
 
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-mazda3-0/#4074350

#448 of 1316 Re: Just spent 4 hours poking n prodding Focus [robr2] by ivan_99

May 05, 2011 (1:03 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (May 05, 2011 11:49 am)
heh...I love big grills...Audi, Chrysler 300, CTS.
 
That big dumb looking M3 grill looks so...dumb (must be PC here...). They could have had a cool looking car, instead it looks like the lovable idiot (think cletus from the simpsons).
 
There's something i don't trust about a big permanent smile...
 
The Focus design looks much more harmonious.

#449 of 1316 Under the heading of handsome is as handsome does by shipo

May 05, 2011 (2:56 pm)

The Focus looks handsome, the Mazda3 does handsome (from a utility and drive perspective).

#450 of 1316 Re: Just spent 4 hours poking n prodding Focus [shipo] by m6user

May 05, 2011 (7:22 pm)

Replying to: shipo (May 05, 2011 9:30 am)
MPG is behind the times. I know they are coming out with some new tech engine wise which will drastically change that equation but right now the 3's mpg pales in comparison to Focus and others in the class. Maybe they'll fix the grin too and all will be well in Mazdaland.

#451 of 1316 Re: Just spent 4 hours poking n prodding Focus [m6user] by shipo

May 05, 2011 (8:01 pm)

Replying to: m6user (May 05, 2011 7:22 pm)
I wouldn't even consider a 2011 Mazda3; my 2009 Mazda3 is just fine thank you. That said, I would very much consider a 2012 SkyActiv-G or better still, a 2013 SkyActiv-D.
 
The above said, considering how much less the 2011 Mazda3 costs versus the 2012 Focus (as close to apples to apples as one can get), you can buy a bunch of gas with the difference. I suspect on a cost per mile basis, the two are pretty comparable. That of course will change when SkyActiv becomes a reality.
 
What really annoys me about all of this is that I was so bent on getting a new Focus (even through Ford discriminates against those of us whom prefer manual transmissions), even to the point of trading in my prefectly good 2009; then I got into the front driver's seat, sit to my liking and then shoehorned my way into the left rear seat. That killed the deal right there.

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