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#149 of 1316 Re: As soon as the 2012 Ford Focus hits... [baggs32]
by igozoomzoom
Mar 13, 2011 (8:42 pm)
The Forte is clearly Kia's entry into the compact segment. With the addition of the new Forte 5-door hatchback for the 2011 model year, it can now be had in three distinct body styles- 2-door coupe (Koup, that is), 4-door sedan or 5-door Hatchback. The Forte is aimed squarely at the new Focus, Mazda3, Civic and Chevy Cruze!
I've been surprised at how little the Forte 5-door has been publicized since it hit dealer lots last fall!??? Did Kia blow all of their annual marketing budget on all those commercials for the SOUL? They had to save some money by using rodents instead of paid actors in the ads, right? =)
#150 of 1316 Re: What's SFE Mean [puffin1]
by igozoomzoom
Mar 13, 2011 (9:31 pm)
The SFE Package is only available on the SE 4-door sedan. It includes 16" steel wheels with unique area wheel covers, 16" Low Rolling Resistance Tires, Rear Disc Brakes, Rear Spoiler. It also adds active shutters to the grille intake- they close at higher speeds to reduce aerodynamic drag and open at lower speeds to maximize cooling.
The package is a $495 option and is only available on the SE 4-door sedan with Automatic Transmission. All options available on regular SE 4-door models are available with the SFE Package, with the exception of the SE Sport Package.
I'm surprised that the Power Moonroof can be ordered with the SFE Package. It has always been my experience that a large hole in the roof creates substantial drag!
BTW- those "Unique Aero Wheel Covers" that are part of the SFE Package are HIDEOUS! They would be a deal-breaker for me...I'd just add Low Rolling Resistance Tires to a regular SE 4-door when I could afford to do so and call it a day!
The SFE is rated at 40mpg highway, but all other Focus models with Automatic Transmission get 38mpg! A 2mpg improvement isn't all that amazing when the car already gets 38mpg highway without any engineering heroics! =)
#151 of 1316 Re: As soon as the 2012 Ford Focus hits... [igozoomzoom]
by backy
Mar 14, 2011 (9:23 am)
I think Kia blew their early 2011 marketing budget on the Optima. I am seeing ads for it everywhere, including the Super Bowl. Optima is much more important for Kia than a Forte hatch--even if you and I prefer a Forte hatch.
#152 of 1316 Re: What's SFE Mean [igozoomzoom]
by backy
Mar 14, 2011 (9:25 am)
I'm surprised that the Power Moonroof can be ordered with the SFE Package. It has always been my experience that a large hole in the roof creates substantial drag!
They must measure the FE with the roof closed.
I'll take the 38 mpg w/o all the heroics, costs, and compromises, thank you.
#153 of 1316 Re: As soon as the 2012 Ford Focus hits... [backy]
by m6user
Mar 14, 2011 (10:23 am)
I think it depends on what you're watching. Sporting event seem to have a lot of the hamster commercials versus the Optima. Younger demographic for the sporting events has them spending their money on the hipster Soul versus the family sedan. Targeted marketing versus the shotgun approach.
#154 of 1316 Re: As soon as the 2012 Ford Focus hits... [m6user]
by backy
Mar 14, 2011 (11:34 am)
In other words... everything BUT the Forte hatch.
#155 of 1316 Re: As soon as the 2012 Ford Focus hits... [backy]
by m6user
Mar 15, 2011 (8:39 am)
Yeah, I can't remember seeing any ad on the Forte 5dr on TV or in print! I love the exterior but the dash, console and steering wheel leave me cold.
#156 of 1316 2012 Focus has arrived at dealerships in Ohio
by hackattack5
Mar 18, 2011 (7:35 pm)
I just test drove a 2012 Focus SE that the dealer got in a couple days ago. I thought it was going to be a no brainer but I am having a hard time deciding between the focus and the fiesta. Focus is bigger but from what I have read its not going to get 40mpg. The dealer thought I was crazy when I told him I wasn't sure which one I am going to buy.
#157 of 1316 Re: 2012 Focus has arrived at dealerships in Ohio [hackattack5]
by backy
Mar 18, 2011 (7:50 pm)
The SFE option is rated 40 mpg highway. But 38 w/o it... not bad at all.
I checked out the Fiesta at my local auto show last week and it's a no-op for me--back seat is way too tight, and costs just a little less than a larger car e.g. Elantra. The Focus was "hands off." So I'll be interested to check it out once it arrives at my local dealer. Reviews I've read have been very positive.
Mar 18, 2011 (10:32 pm)
of the new world order 2012 Ford Focus. It's got an intelligent front end design, it draws you in to look closer, then it's doesn't aesthetically disappoint at all. Very, very, very cool design on the new 2012 Ford Focus.
It's the aesthetically-pleasing splittage of the grille