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#1285 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [maniac4] by kam327

Jan 23, 2013 (8:36 am)

Replying to: maniac4 (Jan 23, 2013 8:23 am)
Indeed at first there were a ton of complaints on the early build dates of the ford powershift............................WERE. I think the bulk of complaints was due to no body knew what the bejesus it was......................
 
To be fair there are still complaints of grinding and shuddering, even with the '13s. My Dec '11 built car (i.e. NOT an "early build") has had shuddering and a clutch failure, but now at 12,000 miles is operating acceptably.
 
But the complaints do seem to be getting to a smaller and smaller percentage of cars sold. Some owners approaching 50,000 miles on the car have reported perfect operation. And one guy with over 100k on a '12 already reports while the DCT has been a little funky, there have been no mechanical failures.

#1286 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [kam327] by maniac4

Jan 23, 2013 (8:49 am)

Replying to: kam327 (Jan 23, 2013 8:36 am)
100 thousand miles..................dang! lots of miles.

#1287 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [maniac4] by kam327

Jan 23, 2013 (9:12 am)

Replying to: maniac4 (Jan 23, 2013 8:49 am)
100 thousand miles..................dang! lots of miles.
 
Yep, apparently they use it in a delivery service. So pretty much constantly on the road.

#1288 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [kam327] by akirby

Jan 23, 2013 (10:40 am)

Replying to: kam327 (Jan 23, 2013 9:12 am)
In addition to the problems mostly fixed by the latest software there were also some legitimate mechanical problems that are probably still occurring to a small number. I think these are being misinterpreted to be more widespread based on the early issues.

#1289 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [sandman_6472] by griswald

Jan 23, 2013 (11:23 am)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Jan 23, 2013 7:56 am)
Funny about the Focus seats, I test drove a SE with the standard cloth seats and thought they were terrible but my SE with the upgraded sports pkg. seats are some of the most comfortable I've ever had.

#1290 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [griswald] by kam327

Jan 23, 2013 (11:28 am)

Replying to: griswald (Jan 23, 2013 11:23 am)
In addition to the problems mostly fixed by the latest software there were also some legitimate mechanical problems that are probably still occurring to a small number. I think these are being misinterpreted to be more widespread based on the early issues.
 
Yes, some cars have had seals that allowed gear or engine fluid to get on the dry clutches and affect operation. And my car had an improperly disengaging clutch that required replacement. These mechanical issues appear to be few and far between and Ford appears to be fixing them.
 
Funny about the Focus seats, I test drove a SE with the standard cloth seats and thought they were terrible but my SE with the upgraded sports pkg. seats are some of the most comfortable I've ever had.
 
Yep the Sport Package on the SE included upgraded bolstering similar to the higher trim levels. The Sport Package is gone for '13 but I think the Appearance Package includes the upgraded bolstering. But they only come in leather. I don't think you can get cloth seats with the upgraded bolstering in '13.

#1291 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [maniac4] by gogogodzilla

Jan 23, 2013 (4:57 pm)

Replying to: maniac4 (Jan 23, 2013 8:23 am)
Either you love a dual clutch or you hate the dual clutch.
 
I think it's more of a 'either you love a clutch or you hate a clutch'. IE: the feel of a 'manual' clutch in the shifts... or the feel of an 'automatic' torque converter in the shifts.
 
With so many never feeling the shifting action of any sort of manual, it stands to reason that they'd find it 'wrong'.

#1292 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [gogogodzilla] by maniac4

Jan 23, 2013 (6:09 pm)

Replying to: gogogodzilla (Jan 23, 2013 4:57 pm)
Well thats what I really meant, Thanks for straightening that out. I did drive a conventional other brand car today and, I think the dct beats it by a long shot!.I had forgotten how doggy they were/are. Ill keep the dct. this sure does remind me when front wheel drive came around Nobody wanted one, fast forward and.............................perfection.The powershift should work out fairly well. The reviews are getting better. Im glad for ford that the are being better recieved by the populous. Dodge really dont know how much they helped the focus prevail with the dart. ! any thoughts ?

#1293 of 1316 Re: Software or Leaky Seals [starluck3000] by gimmestdtranny

Jan 27, 2013 (10:50 am)

Replying to: starluck3000 (Nov 15, 2012 10:13 am)
It seems that not all fixes are achieved by software upgrades. Human nature tho to have wishful (simple fix) thinking, but yours might be one of the ones with a leaking seal. I think that what kam posted about that might have gotten by you?
 
Any updates since Nov?

#1294 of 1316 Re: Consumer Reports gives Focus thumbs down [kam327] by gimmestdtranny

Jan 27, 2013 (11:00 am)

Replying to: kam327 (Jan 04, 2013 8:37 am)
A manufacturer has to take responsibility for the sales and reputation of their vehicles and their decision to bundle them with tech that is so advanced, it is prone to glitches and far from perfected. We are the guinea pigs that provide the road (read $) to pursuing that perfection (or even just basic as-promised function).
 
IF Ford wants to get the attention and hoopla from choosing to offer the (so-called) perks of MyTouch, then they also have to own it (it; as in.. its reputation) if it does not perform properly in the hands of those who sprung the extra bucks to get it.
 
The same can be said for DCT. It is Ford's responsibility (as is any mfr) to ensure a purchaser is INFORMED of potential operational differences over what they might have been accustomed to in the past.
 
I know you are a Ford guy and indicate a lot of fairness in your posts, but I still say let 'em (Ford) reap what they sow..
If they want the attention from new and improved and are rolling out new product as fast as Steve Jobs was, then they also have to endure a bit of bad press when they find they didn't actually get right, and when you have the number of issues (recalls etc) for some serious issues, as they are stacking up lately, then maybe it's a good lesson to them that a little slower and surer wins the race. The older I get, like anyone else, the more vehicles we have owned over the years, and I for one am getting damn tired of being their unpaid tester of premature product releases. We are their guinea pigs essentially. And ironically...not only are we not paid to do this...we pay them!!

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