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#1282 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [sandman_6472] by kam327

Jan 23, 2013 (7:30 am)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Jan 22, 2013 8:43 pm)
That's funny, most report that the Focus seats are among the best in the segment. Certainly the leather seats are and I didn't think the cloth seats in the SEL has any less bolstering than the leather. The seats in the base SE can be expected to be much less comfortable however.
 
Maybe the car you tested did not have the latest tranny software. It's possible.

#1283 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [kam327] by sandman_6472

Jan 23, 2013 (7:56 am)

Replying to: kam327 (Jan 23, 2013 7:30 am)
I prefer a cloth more like what the Altima had but that's just personal preference. And since I have spinal issues, I'm very particular about the driver seat. But I really liked the hatch, my daughter has a Versa SL hatch, and think it looks way better than the sedan on this car. As my past posts have shown, I'm definitely not a Ford lover, though I do own some shares of the company. But this car is one on my short list now...seriously!
Am hoping to drive the new Escape at my job soon, as it is spectacular looking really...prefer it now to the Mazda equivalent...job well done Ford!
 
The Sandman

#1284 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [sandman_6472] by maniac4

Jan 23, 2013 (8:23 am)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Jan 22, 2013 8:43 pm)
Indeed at first there were a ton of complaints on the early build dates of the ford powershift............................WERE. I think the bulk of complaints was due to no body knew what the bejesus it was......................Are you for certain it had the 137b updated flash?. Just asking.
 
Cause its cool as all now. Either you love a dual clutch or you hate the dual clutch. there is no middle ground, Sorry about the back injury .That aint no joke.best wishes. I dont know what you can do..........whatever makes your back feel good is all that matters. right? Regardles which year make or model.
maniac4

#1285 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [maniac4] by kam327

Jan 23, 2013 (8:36 am)

Replying to: maniac4 (Jan 23, 2013 8:23 am)
Indeed at first there were a ton of complaints on the early build dates of the ford powershift............................WERE. I think the bulk of complaints was due to no body knew what the bejesus it was......................
 
To be fair there are still complaints of grinding and shuddering, even with the '13s. My Dec '11 built car (i.e. NOT an "early build") has had shuddering and a clutch failure, but now at 12,000 miles is operating acceptably.
 
But the complaints do seem to be getting to a smaller and smaller percentage of cars sold. Some owners approaching 50,000 miles on the car have reported perfect operation. And one guy with over 100k on a '12 already reports while the DCT has been a little funky, there have been no mechanical failures.

#1286 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [kam327] by maniac4

Jan 23, 2013 (8:49 am)

Replying to: kam327 (Jan 23, 2013 8:36 am)
100 thousand miles..................dang! lots of miles.

#1287 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [maniac4] by kam327

Jan 23, 2013 (9:12 am)

Replying to: maniac4 (Jan 23, 2013 8:49 am)
100 thousand miles..................dang! lots of miles.
 
Yep, apparently they use it in a delivery service. So pretty much constantly on the road.

#1288 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [kam327] by akirby

Jan 23, 2013 (10:40 am)

Replying to: kam327 (Jan 23, 2013 9:12 am)
In addition to the problems mostly fixed by the latest software there were also some legitimate mechanical problems that are probably still occurring to a small number. I think these are being misinterpreted to be more widespread based on the early issues.

#1289 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [sandman_6472] by griswald

Jan 23, 2013 (11:23 am)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Jan 23, 2013 7:56 am)
Funny about the Focus seats, I test drove a SE with the standard cloth seats and thought they were terrible but my SE with the upgraded sports pkg. seats are some of the most comfortable I've ever had.

#1290 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [griswald] by kam327

Jan 23, 2013 (11:28 am)

Replying to: griswald (Jan 23, 2013 11:23 am)
In addition to the problems mostly fixed by the latest software there were also some legitimate mechanical problems that are probably still occurring to a small number. I think these are being misinterpreted to be more widespread based on the early issues.
 
Yes, some cars have had seals that allowed gear or engine fluid to get on the dry clutches and affect operation. And my car had an improperly disengaging clutch that required replacement. These mechanical issues appear to be few and far between and Ford appears to be fixing them.
 
Funny about the Focus seats, I test drove a SE with the standard cloth seats and thought they were terrible but my SE with the upgraded sports pkg. seats are some of the most comfortable I've ever had.
 
Yep the Sport Package on the SE included upgraded bolstering similar to the higher trim levels. The Sport Package is gone for '13 but I think the Appearance Package includes the upgraded bolstering. But they only come in leather. I don't think you can get cloth seats with the upgraded bolstering in '13.

#1291 of 1316 Re: 2013 SEL Hatch [maniac4] by gogogodzilla

Jan 23, 2013 (4:57 pm)

Replying to: maniac4 (Jan 23, 2013 8:23 am)
Either you love a dual clutch or you hate the dual clutch.
 
I think it's more of a 'either you love a clutch or you hate a clutch'. IE: the feel of a 'manual' clutch in the shifts... or the feel of an 'automatic' torque converter in the shifts.
 
With so many never feeling the shifting action of any sort of manual, it stands to reason that they'd find it 'wrong'.

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