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#1210 of 1316 Re: Focus number 1 [cannon3]
by sandman_6472
Nov 08, 2012 (7:22 pm)
Funny how we all have different opinions about this...I thought the Jetta/Golf had the nicer interior and the Focus and Elantra were pretty even on this score. I was very impressed with the SEL hatch I drove in that the leather seats were quite comfortable with a nice grade of leather and I loved the hatch. Didn't like the way it drove though but I'm sure it's something one could get used to. But it was a real looker though the price was way too much to pay for what one got. And not sure how the car would hold up. I've had my Civic going on almost 7 years now and I still get asked if it's a brand new model.
Plan on having the wife drive one again just to make sure that it's not on her list anymore. Her '05 Mazda3 s just went over the 113k mark so it's just a matter of time now before we'll have to finally purchase her a new sled. Am very pleased with how it has held up over the years. Also, I really like the C-Max and I would look seriously at one if the price came in at a reasonable price.
The Sandman
#1211 of 1316 C-Max [sandman_6472]
by creakid1
Nov 09, 2012 (1:42 am)
Yeah, Ford needs to provide the C-Max version of the Focus in order to compete in rear leg room...
So how competitive can the handling be w/ a higher roof like that?
Like the C-Max, the new Jetta is unreliable, w/ lots of rear leg room & available hybrid powertrain. Unlike the C-Max, its roof isn't too high for sporty handling
#1212 of 1316 Re: Stop Bashing The DCT [akirby]
by cannon3
Nov 09, 2012 (4:41 pm)
Agreed, my DCT has been fine since re-flash. Go to another dealership. Sounds like the one you are bringing it to doesn't know what they are doing. You do know there is another flash that came out for this transmission right? I had mine re-programmed at about 3,000 miles and it stopped the rollback on a hill scenario and it smoothed out the lower end shifts. Plus, Americans are not used to this type of technology/transmission combination. I am a strong believer there is a learning curve in knowing how these transmissions work and behave.
Nov 09, 2012 (6:17 pm)
OK I have had my 2012 Focus SEL for 6 months now and about 6500 miles. Overall I love this car. I am 49 years old and wanted something fun to drive. If you google Doug Hacker from Milford Ohio you will find an article that interviewed me when I was picking out a new car. I really wanted to buy a corolla S but I just could not pull the trigger. The Focus started out great. I feel really good about buying a Ford because of the history of the company and they did not take the Big 0 bailout. Shortly after the purchase the transmission and Mytouch really pushed me to the limits but after the 5000 mile mark the "fussy" transmission has settled down and to be honest the my touch still has its flaws but I know that Ford will not give up and with a few more updates I believe it will be great in the long haul. I could of bought the bullet proof Corolla but I can tell you the the Focus is a blast to drive if you can understand the fact that it is a automated manual and not a auto you will love it too. I agree with the person that said its only competitor is the Mazda 3. I have been getting 33 mpg on average and it has not been back 1 time for warranty work. If you look at the reliabilty websites it is getting bad reviews because of the My touch and the misunderstanding of the transmission. This is a really cool car and by the way I got it for $5500 under sticker which puts it in the right price range.
#1214 of 1316 Re: Stop Bashing The DCT [cannon3]
by hackattack6
Nov 09, 2012 (6:22 pm)
I agree the transmission is more like a manual than a traditional auto. The dealer does a horrible job of educating the buyer so ofcourse the buyer is expecting a auto transmission and is very dissapointed.
#1215 of 1316 Focus wish list
by cannon3
Nov 11, 2012 (1:51 pm)
Ford needs the momentum of the Ford Focus to keep going. Ford has a history of resting on its laurels when they have a hit. Now Ford needs to add more to the Focus line-up. Offer a wagon, offer a 2 door coupe, offer a convertible. Offer several performance models/upgrades/trim levels ect... I have to say, look at Kia/Hyundai. They have expanded on their line-ups in break neck speed. Don't rest Ford!!
#1216 of 1316 Re: Focus wish list [cannon3]
by akirby
Nov 11, 2012 (6:28 pm)
Ford has many other things to invest in. New C-Max. New generation Fusion Hybrid. New Escape. New Fusion. New small and large vans. Next gen F150. Focus electric. Plug-in hybrids.
The market for coupes and wagons is really small and Ford has better things to invest in right now. Maybe down the road.
Nov 11, 2012 (6:47 pm)
Sat in both cars the other day at the dealerships and preferred the dash layout of the Focus a bit more actually...not a bad place to be but the seats were a nightmare for my bad spine. The Jetta chairs were just so much more comfortable and they had a nice perforated leather with upteen adjustments...I found a very comfortable position without too much fuss. I definitely prefer the hatchback style of the Focus over the Golf though...with the right alloys, the Focus hatch is a real looker...job well done Ford! Down here in South Florida, the split seems to be 50/50 sedan/hatch which is what I'd get if in the market right now. I could see out the back pretty easily and the extra versatility would be really nice now. I do like the C-Max very much also and just wondering if it has the auto tranny that so many are complaining about? The mileage figures look very impressive but worry about battery replacement down the line...will the price be so outrageous as to wipe out all the proposed savings of the hybrid? And how long will the batteries last before needing to be swapped out for new ones?
Watched MotorWeek yesterday and they did a segment on plug-in electric powered cars which was very entertaining and informative. Think a city is the best place for those types of vehicles as there would be more charging station sites available for a quick charge up. Maybe it's time quite hasn't come yet for the American suburbs. But looks very promising for the future though.
The Sandman
#1218 of 1316 Re: Jetta vs. Focus [sandman_6472]
by creakid1
Nov 11, 2012 (10:23 pm)
I checked out the new Focus ST & C-Max today in the show room.
The C-Max has more things in common with the new Jetta -- besides the "door armrest too low for the driver's elbow", there's the "lack of high chair for rear passengers", unlike the new or old Focus (or the upcoming Volvo V40, which is still based on the C-1 platform).
The ST, whether it's the new 2012 or my 2007, has "high rear chair" (except the left corner tapers down somewhat due to bad U.S. workmanship), higher than the Golf's, which is still higher than the new Jetta's.
This is so annoying. In order to get high chair for the rear, you don't get stretch-out leg room? Or vice versa. At least the old Focus seems to achieve both quite OK.
By the way, the C-Max hybrid uses CVT tranny.
#1219 of 1316 Re: 2012 Focus SEL [hackattack6]
by starluck3000
Nov 12, 2012 (7:50 pm)
Ok hackattack6....what's to understand? I love my 2012 focus se...bought it in March...I have about 4800 miles on it and the transmission is HORRIBLE!! It shakes..shudders..and I feel like the whole front end is going to fall off! And..it has actually gotten worse! I am going to take it in...my husband talked to the tranny mechanic who said this is normal for this transmission, but give me a break...it feels like I am driving over railroad ties for about 5 to 10 secs upon acceleration. You think that this is normal? I am at my wits end...sorry for venting, but I won't accept this as "normal" glad you love your car....