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#1180 of 1324 Re: So, What Is It? [sandman_6472]
Sep 11, 2012 (2:37 pm)
Auto should always be 2...even if the tranny really is a manual being automatically controlled.
I love the auto/manual (is it?) debate...sort of like the "who's on first" routine
#1181 of 1324 Re: So, What Is It? [ivan_99]
Sep 11, 2012 (6:35 pm)
Really should be no debate as they are both good. People should stop trying to shove either one down other people's throat. If someone wants one or the other I say just buy it and shut up.
#1182 of 1324 Re: So, What Is It? [ivan_99]
Sep 11, 2012 (6:39 pm)
From a driver's perspective it's an automatic. But from a technical standpoint it's a computer controlled manual. The latter is important for understanding how it feels and how it works. There is no torque converter so the computer has to operate the clutch when you stop and go. The software is just now able to do it somewhat smoothly. The first ones in the Ferraris and other exotics were terrible. The software will continue to get better and better with each iteration. Ford has put out 2 new software releases that are supposed to make it smoother but it will never be as smooth as a torque converter. Also - the DCT that Ford used in the Focus is a dry clutch unit as opposed to a wet clutch unit which is smoother but more expensive and not as fuel efficient.
The tradeoff is fuel efficiency and faster manual shifting.
#1183 of 1324 Re: So, What Is It? [m6user]
Sep 11, 2012 (7:53 pm)
Agreed, I drove the auto and 5spd manual (the one with 3 pedals ). While I liked the 5 speed better...it wasn't a 6 speed and it gets a bit busy-feeling when going 85-90 mph (TX roads...).
I didn't have the problems with the automatic that others were feeling...but I drove a few VW DSG's and corrected one of my "faults". I had a tendency to lift the gas a bit just before the shifts occurred (old habits of driving manual...) this caused it to have a jerky feeling. After I made a conscious effort to keep the gas at a consistent rate it was all smoothed out.
#1185 of 1324 Update on my Focus
Oct 14, 2012 (6:35 pm)
Well, I am going on 9,000 miles. I am averaging per the computer 35.4MPG. I cannot complain, its an automatic. Most of the time I drive it like an old man. However, the real reason I am writing this is because of how much I really like the manu-shift option on this car. I was a bit hesitant at first to try it and waited until just a few days ago to give it a whirl. One word, FUN. The car acts totally different when in the "S" mode on the automatic. You can hold the revs up pretty high to about 4K in each gear then shift with the button. The car is actually pretty quick. I am told in other forums to go to redline and the car is quicker. However I am chicken and don't want to hurt a new car. So far no complaints, great little car. Ford of Europe needs to teach Ford of America how to build great small cars..
#1186 of 1324 Re: Update on my Focus [cannon3]
Oct 14, 2012 (8:31 pm)
Just so you know - when Ford rolls a car off the assembly line they go WOT to test it. You won't hurt it.
#1187 of 1324 Another Focus sold!
Oct 21, 2012 (12:07 pm)
Honda losses to Ford! My mother and Father in law went car shopping. They don't care about buying American, or are they brand loyal. They shopped all the small cars from EVERY manufacturer. They chose a Ford Focus 4 door sedan SEL automatic. The reasons were numerous. They loved the interior touch, feel and quality. They felt the engine was quiet and had enough power. The car handled better than anything they drove. They traded in their 2005 Honda Civic.
#1188 of 1324 New competitor from VW (Golf VII)
Oct 23, 2012 (9:20 am)
"Fun is a debatable point here. The new Golf certainly corners neatly and has high levels of mechanical grip, with a torque vectoring system to reduce nose-on understeer. But in terms of fun, it ranks alongside cutting your toenails. There’s no feedback to the steering wheel, so it feels inert. Lift off the throttle in a bend and the nose barely registers. They’ve even taken out the mechanical hand brake—so no fun there, either. Hackenberg promises that the R-Line models will have more spirited chassis, and that the GTI and its 190-hp diesel counterpart, the GTD, will be barnstormers...Where VW missed the mark is with its inability or unwillingness to improve the driver appeal of the standard car. Modern electronics and steering systems can do so much, yet the Golf feels stodgy compared with the Ford Focus."
Read more: 2014 Volkswagen Golf Test Drive - Popular Mechanics
#1189 of 1324 Front Suspension Clunk
Oct 26, 2012 (6:42 pm)
Has anyone here been experiencing the infamous front-end clunk with their new/newish Focus?