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#1088 of 1316 Re: 2011 Focus sales [gambit293]
Jan 27, 2012 (8:44 pm)
Here's a comment from autoblog, supposely by the writer or the original Forbes article about Ford's fleet sales:
As the author of the Forbes story that started this thread, I thought you should know it is indeed the 2012 Focus that went to fleet in great numbers. Production started in spring 2011, and as many as 90% of the first cars produced went to fleets. I'm told it was because of contractual obligations. Also, there weren't a lot of cars produced initially because of launch problems (bad dashboards, so they had to fly some in from Europe, and transmission complaints). As the year wore on, and production improved, that % gradually went down. In the third quarter, for example, it was 34%. For the first nine months, it averaged 45%. Fourth quarter registration data's not out yet. So it could be lower. It's still unusually high, especially for a new car right out of the chute."
#1089 of 1316 Re: Questions about ordering a Focus... [maxamillion85]
Jan 28, 2012 (12:57 pm)
The rebates would only apply to a 2012 model but yes you could order one the way you want it and still get rebates. However, it depends on the dealer whether they're allowed to lock in the rebates at time of order or if you have to wait and take whatever rebates are in place when you take delivery.
I assume part of the fleet sales were commercial and not all rental sales, but it appears that Ford made a conscious decision to send a lot of the early builds (that sometimes get held for weeks) to rental fleets rather than customers.
I know there was not a glut of vehicles on dealer lots because I had to order one for my daughter back in June and that didn't change much until the last month or two.
You won't see high rental fleets going forward - I'm sure of that.
#1090 of 1316 Re: Questions about ordering a Focus... [akirby]
Jan 28, 2012 (5:36 pm)
Thanks Akirby! So the 2013 Focus is coming out early in the spring? and the Titanium manual comes out in the spring too, right? I wanna make sure I'm getting all of this right. Any word on the 1.6t going into the Focus SEL or Titanium? Thanks in advance...I appreciate all the info!
#1091 of 1316 Re: Questions about ordering a Focus... [maxamillion85]
Jan 28, 2012 (8:53 pm)
Not sure on the date for the 2013 but that may be right. I know Ford is trying to move most product debuts to Spring or earlier to be closer to the big auto shows. I don't think the Focus gets the 1.6 eb yet but I could be wrong.
#1092 of 1316 Re: Questions about ordering a Focus... [maxamillion85]
Jan 28, 2012 (9:01 pm)
The 2012 Ford Focus came out in early spring 2011. You will note the new Elantra that came out shortly thereafter that everyone was comparing with and against this Focus was actually a 2011. So in the fall of 2011 the 2012 Elantra came out but the 2012 Focus was out six months or more early.
Expect the 2013 Ford Focus to make it's appearance as most other cars in the fall of 2013 not the spring of that year.
#1093 of 1316 Re: Questions about ordering a Focus... [gone2]
Jan 28, 2012 (11:13 pm)
The 2011 Elantra you are talking about hit the dealers in Dec. 2010 and that is why it was called a 2011 model and not a 2012 model. If it had been introduced in 2011 they could have called it a 2012 model like Ford did with the Focus which hit dealers about two to three month after. The 2012 Elantra came out about the time that most new car introductions which is the fall. But, that tradition seems to be a thing of the past with new model introductions taking place earlier and earlier in the year. I actually think the carmakers are spreading out their debuts to generate more buzz all year long rather than just a short time frame like the old days.
#1094 of 1316 Re: Questions about ordering a Focus... [gone2]
Jan 29, 2012 (7:24 pm)
I'm aware of when the Focus came out...Titanium with manual transmission is supposed to be available in the Spring of this year...so when I asked about rebates and ordering Akirby mentioned the current rebates being only available for 2012 models which made me assume the 2013 was coming out soon.
#1095 of 1316 Re: Questions about ordering a Focus... [maxamillion85]
Jan 29, 2012 (8:50 pm)
Should the sticker price of the Titanium Focus w/ Manual Tranny be considerably less than the automatic model ? Typically A.T. will add $1,000 to the sticker price.
Here is another question: Is Ford actually reacting to the desires of auto enthusiasts with this decision ?
#1096 of 1316 Re: Questions about ordering a Focus... [markus5]
Jan 29, 2012 (10:50 pm)
I think the DSG in the Focus is a $1095 MSRP option...$953 invoice...I would't be surprised if Ford does a "No charge" option type deal...my 07 Accord is an excellent car...no need to trade at the moment but I REALLY would like a Focus Titanium with a stick shift, though I'd prefer it were a 6spd and not a 5spd.
#1097 of 1316 Re: Questions about ordering a Focus... [maxamillion85]
Feb 01, 2012 (9:19 am)
Akirby mentioned the current rebates being only available for 2012 models which made me assume the 2013 was coming out soon.
No, it doesn't mean that. That is always the case - the current incentives only apply to the current models regardless of when the new one arrives. Meaning you won't see 2013 incentives until the 2013s are actually on the lot for sale.