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#15 of 54 Re: .... [Mr_Shiftright]
Nov 09, 2010 (4:45 am)
Hmm...ugliest cars of the last fifty years? To my eyes, the list would have to include (in no particular order):
1962 Rambler Classic two-door sedan...looks like it's from an Eastern bloc country
1965 Ford Fairlane....blocky body too big for the wheelbase
1962 Dodge Dart (big model)
1961 Imperial--even the nameplates are too big
1963-64 full-size Chryslers (although I admire the '65's and also the '64-66 Imperials)--not a unified line on them
1960 Lincoln--fill in your own description
1969-73 "Fuselage" body full-size Chrysler, Plymouth, and Dodge...too damn big
Early '60s Valiant and Dodge Dart station wagons
Any Pacer (although the "X" model has grown on me)
'74 and later Ambassador or Matador 4-door sedans
Toyota Prius (both generations)
'80-85 Cadillac Seville
'86-89 Cadillac Eldorado
#16 of 54 Re: .... [uplanderguy]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Nov 09, 2010 (7:34 am)
You forgot the Packard Hawk, which should be a poster child for homeliness:
I thought your list was generally pretty good---you have a good eye for regrettable design.
#17 of 54 Re: 50 Years of Ugly Cars --What Do You Think? [Mr_Shiftright]
Nov 09, 2010 (7:49 am)
The ones I disagree with:
--El Camino. I have always liked these and I don't the design is overly ugly. Form follows function and if there was a model available today, I'd have it. How many of us really need a Ram 2500 for our bi-annual trip to Home Depot for mulch?
--Volvo 240. It's hip to be square.
--BMW 7 series. Not the marque's finest hour, but there is much worse out there.
--PT Cruiser. I'll probably get killed for this one, but we had one back in my married days and aside from being underpowered, I liked the design. Incredibly functional interior as well. I once carried a hot water heater with the back seats out. I will admit that the lack of power is why I got rid of it, even though it was my wifes ride.
#18 of 54 Re: 50 Years of Ugly Cars --What Do You Think? [au1994]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Nov 09, 2010 (8:40 am)
I'd really hesitate to brand a car truly "ugly" unless just about all of it was offensive--front, back, you name it. An awkward line here or there might make it homely from some angles, but doesn't it take a special car to offend you when you walk completely around it?
One idea of how we might judge a design could be the concept of "coherence"--you know, when a designer is trying to convey an image, a feeling, an "idea".
When you have a design where no part of the car speaks to, or reflects, or mirrors, or repeats, any other part, then we have chaos---and when we have a chaotic design, it usually is pretty ugly to most people.
Look at this thing below....let your eye try to follow it---what's the "idea" here? I find it chaotic---it almost looks like it's being blown to pieces in stop-action, doesn't it?
#19 of 54 Re: 50 Years of Ugly Cars --What Do You Think? [au1994]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Nov 09, 2010 (8:56 am)
I thought Chrysler was making a mistake getting rid of the PT Cruiser. It wouldn't take much to improve it into a nice grocery getter.
Shifty, I feel pretty much the same way about '57 Chevys and a lot of cars of that era.
#20 of 54 Re: 50 Years of Ugly Cars --What Do You Think? [steve_]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Nov 09, 2010 (9:26 am)
Tail fins have saved a lot of cars from oblivion.
The PT Cruiser just ran its course--sales dropped every year, more and more. The public is done with it as a viable product to sell them. I never liked them from Day One, and was very surprised at the car's success---which was substantial. I was completely wrong in assessing its appeal. But then again, I'm a elitist , (which is one of the nicest things anyone could call me btw) so bound to be wrong a lot when it comes to mass appeal.
#21 of 54 Re: 50 Years of Ugly Cars --What Do You Think? [Mr_Shiftright]
Nov 09, 2010 (9:55 am)
Well, that and GM's copycat HHR came along...
#22 of 54 Re: .... [Mr_Shiftright]
Nov 09, 2010 (10:00 am)
A '58 Packard Hawk is not "...of the past fifty years". The '50's would open up a whole new list of such cars, for me!
I dislike the catfish mouth and toilet seat on the trunk. Take those away, and it's a Studebaker Golden Hawk. I don't think many would call that an ugly car. And it has a beautiful, functional instrument panel and leather interior.
I think the Packard Hawk looks better when compared to '58's other behemoth monstrosities. And, as we've discussed before, they bring surprisingly big money when they're for sale...definitely more than most anything else on my list (at least, non-letter Chryslers and closed cars). At production of 588, I couldn't even find any completed sales on eBay to list here.
#23 of 54 Buick, Oldmobile
Nov 09, 2010 (10:27 am)
1958 Buick Roadmaster
1958 Oldsmobile 98
These two were most grotesque with their huge amounts of chrome placed willy nilly on car sides and huge ugly grilles and back ends.
Lets stretch a little and say 50+ years of cars.
#24 of 54 Staying within the past 50 years:
Nov 09, 2010 (11:29 am)
1961 Plymouth Fury
1962 Plymouth Fury
1962 Dodge Polara
1970 Pontiac Catalina/Bonneville
1974 AMC Matador coupe
1974-78 AMC Matador sedan
1974-1977 Datsun B210
1976-80 AMC Pacer
1985-88 Cadillac DeVille/Fleetwood FWD
1986-91 Cadillac Eldorado
1986-91 Cadillac Seville
1999-2002 Mercury Cougar
There would be a lot more, but I felt they were merely "homely" versus outright grotesque.