Last post on Dec 05, 2013 at 1:02 PM
You are in the Ford Fiesta
What is this discussion about?
Ford Fiesta, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback
#37 of 138 Re: recoup costs [ivan_99]
Oct 12, 2011 (2:34 pm)
Well, for someone who has (not) yet purchased a Ford Fiesta with or without the SFE Package, it appears your concerns are theoretical and (not) actual. You sound like you would be much better suited for either a Hyundai or Kia product. With its 5 year bumper to bumper warranty and its 10 year/100K Drive Train Warranty for the "original" purchaser, it probably your (best) value. My 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback (without) the SFE Package gets consistent 33 mpg city and 41 mpg highway, FYI. On the matter of whether or not the SFE will retains its value in comparison to its cost, absolutely without any doubt, "No". Case closed.
#38 of 138 Re: Considering Purchase of Fiesta [phill1]
Oct 13, 2011 (1:18 pm)
What is your source for the SFE package = low resistance tires statement?
When I made my decision, I understood the SFE package to include aerodynamic bits on the front and underneath the car and lighter wheels. The Ford website says this:
"- Underbody shields
- Blockers on lower grille
- 15" steel wheels
- Speed control"
I never inspected the underside of my SFE vs. a regular SE or SES - but there's a pretty low plastic air dam in the front.
#39 of 138 Impact of A/C on mpg
Oct 13, 2011 (1:22 pm)
I drove to grandma's house a few weeks ago and tested the mileage with the AC on and off. It made a bigger difference than I expected.
65 mph, no AC: 47 mpg
65 mph, AC on full blast: 40 mpg.
Both were over ten miles, on relatively flat terrain (101 between Salinas and San Luis Obisbo). Wind could be a variable, of course.
#40 of 138 Re: recoup costs [phill1]
Oct 13, 2011 (8:53 pm)
Why would I like KIA or Hyundai better, for the warranty? I do like some KIA and Hyundai's...but the warranty doesn't come into play as I usually sell before they expire.
That's pretty good mileage, is your's the manual?
#41 of 138 Re: recoup costs [ivan_99]
Oct 13, 2011 (10:00 pm)
All SFEs are automatics.
#42 of 138 Re: recoup costs [ivan_99]
Oct 14, 2011 (4:59 am)
Automatic Transmission, Cruise Control, Power Moonroof, Alloy Wheels, and "NO" SFE Package!
#43 of 138 Re: recoup costs [dpriven]
Oct 14, 2011 (5:00 am)
I believe so, but check www.ford.com for specifics.
#44 of 138 Re: Impact of A/C on mpg [dpriven]
Oct 14, 2011 (5:06 am)
Well I assure you, the Fuel Economy that I Posted in regards to (my) 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback with automatic transmission of 33 mpg city and 41 mpg highway were with the A/C on as you say, "Full Blast". Living here in South Florida, having the A/C on, in (not) an option!
#45 of 138 Re: Considering Purchase of Fiesta [dpriven]
Oct 14, 2011 (5:21 am)
I can`t speak for the 2012 model Ford Fiesta, but in regards to the 2011 model, the only difference between the SFE and the non-SFE Fiesta`s were the ugly steel wheels and covers vs the optional Alloy Wheels and the upgrade to the allegedly "Low Rolling Resistance Tires". All the other item you mentioned were included and put on (all) Fiesta models regardless of Trim: S, SE, SEL, and SES. The Speed/Cruise Control was available in one of the (upgrade convenience packages). The Underbody shields and Blockers on the lower grill were (included) as standard equipment on (all) 2011 Ford Fiesta`s. I know that the 2012 Ford Focus has very different specifications on its SFE Package, but I doubt that it applies to the 2012 Ford Fiesta. IMO, you will never reclaim the costs of purchasing the SFE Package, even if you gain the extra 1 mpg. The 2012 Kia Rio5 has an extra cost Idle/Stop/Go Eco Package that is supposed to provide an extra 1 mpg fuel savings too. For the extra cost of that feature, once again, you will never get back in savings, the initial expense.
#46 of 138 Re: Considering Purchase of Fiesta [phill1]
Oct 14, 2011 (12:10 pm)
".....The Underbody shields and Blockers on the lower grill were (included) as standard equipment on (all) 2011 Ford Fiesta`s...."
That is not true at all. Go to your Ford dealer and crawl under a 2011 SFE and you will see a bunch of plastic panels covering many parts of the undercarriage that are not on your Fiesta or mine (SE) for that matter. Then look at the lower part of the SFE's grill and you will see blockers that, again, are not on our cars.
I do agree with you though, that it is not worth the money for the SFE package. A person would likely never recoup the cost.