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Ford Fiesta, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback
#33 of 138 Re: Considering Purchase of Fiesta [dpriven]
Oct 12, 2011 (7:31 am)
In regards to purchasing the SFE Package on a Ford Fiesta, at least when it came to the 2011 series, the only thing (extra) that you got for a ridiculous price for (that) option was the "superior" low rolling resistance tires. IMO, when the original tires need replacing at around 30K miles, I can then decide if I want to spend a bit extra for a superior tire upgrade. I understand your rationale about putting the extra dollars in Ford`s pocket rather then "Big Oil", but its like paying a $5000 upgrade to go for a Escape or Fusion "Hybrid", unless you rack up 30K miles a year in driving, you will never get back the savings from the Gasoline not used. Still, it gives most people a warm fuzzy feeling helping the environment a bit, Guess thats why Vermont and California sell the most Hybrids and Subaru`s. Glad to see that Ford for 2012 finally put an Armrest in the Fiesta which was missing in the 2011 model.
#34 of 138 recoup costs
Oct 12, 2011 (8:32 am)
You don't need to recoup the cost of SFE in gasoline...
You don't look to recoup the costs of an $800 sunroof...that amount is added to the value of the vehicle and when you sell it you'll get more for your car.
Assuming increased mileage (even a bit) is valued when you sell you car you should be able to command a higher (a bit...) resale value.
For example...A Prius is way over charged compared to a Corolla...but that value doesn't go away when you sell it; just look at used Prius prices
#35 of 138 Re: recoup costs [ivan_99]
Oct 12, 2011 (9:12 am)
I`ve actually "sold" both New and Used cars for a living. True, you will never get back the extra $700 or $800 spent for a Power Moonroof upgrade, (but) you "might" get a bit more in Trade in Value or sell it (faster) in a Private Resale. The added feature of a the SFE Package ae: Low Rolling Resistance Tires which I`m sure you will agree with will no longer be on the Vehicle at point of Trade In, unless of course they are replaced with similar type tires, will not even return a "wee bit" extra. Only 4 matching identical tires with plenty of "tread ware" remaining is looked for at either trade in or lease return. Your comparison of expected higher residual value of a "Hybrid" vehicle compared to a "Non" Hybrid vehicle and the addition of the SFE Package containing the original upgraded tires that are no longer (still) on the vehicle, is as they say, a "bit" of a Stretch. Even the 2012 Ford Focus that tout`s the automatic closing louvers in its Radiator Grill on it`s SFE Package will not return the extra value that either a Ford Escape or Ford Fusion would, equipped with a Hybrid engine. That is why there are so few vehicles that the Dealers order for inventory with the SFE Package. Its a tough sell to have someone pay extra for something that they cannot either see or immediately benefit by. Both a Power Moonroof, Navigation System, Power Windows, Door Locks, Mirrors, Remote Key Fob and of course a Hybrid Engine, yes definitely, SFE I`m afraid, not so much as a "bit" more. With or without the SFE Package, I`m sure you will very much enjoy your Ford Fiesta. I`ve owned mine for almost 15 months now and am very happy with it. Enjoy!
#36 of 138 Re: recoup costs [phill1]
Oct 12, 2011 (11:00 am)
Yeah...could be. It's hard to see whether this option will retain its value. I think it's only 1mpg on the highway...so it may be a tough re-sell Depends on the salesman; or saleswoman (my wife sold a used toilet seat cover at our garage sale so...).
Don't have a Fiesta, test drove one but am leaning towards other cars.
#37 of 138 Re: recoup costs [ivan_99]
Oct 12, 2011 (2:34 pm)
Well, for someone who has (not) yet purchased a Ford Fiesta with or without the SFE Package, it appears your concerns are theoretical and (not) actual. You sound like you would be much better suited for either a Hyundai or Kia product. With its 5 year bumper to bumper warranty and its 10 year/100K Drive Train Warranty for the "original" purchaser, it probably your (best) value. My 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback (without) the SFE Package gets consistent 33 mpg city and 41 mpg highway, FYI. On the matter of whether or not the SFE will retains its value in comparison to its cost, absolutely without any doubt, "No". Case closed.
#38 of 138 Re: Considering Purchase of Fiesta [phill1]
Oct 13, 2011 (1:18 pm)
What is your source for the SFE package = low resistance tires statement?
When I made my decision, I understood the SFE package to include aerodynamic bits on the front and underneath the car and lighter wheels. The Ford website says this:
"- Underbody shields
- Blockers on lower grille
- 15" steel wheels
- Speed control"
I never inspected the underside of my SFE vs. a regular SE or SES - but there's a pretty low plastic air dam in the front.
#39 of 138 Impact of A/C on mpg
Oct 13, 2011 (1:22 pm)
I drove to grandma's house a few weeks ago and tested the mileage with the AC on and off. It made a bigger difference than I expected.
65 mph, no AC: 47 mpg
65 mph, AC on full blast: 40 mpg.
Both were over ten miles, on relatively flat terrain (101 between Salinas and San Luis Obisbo). Wind could be a variable, of course.
#40 of 138 Re: recoup costs [phill1]
Oct 13, 2011 (8:53 pm)
Why would I like KIA or Hyundai better, for the warranty? I do like some KIA and Hyundai's...but the warranty doesn't come into play as I usually sell before they expire.
That's pretty good mileage, is your's the manual?
#41 of 138 Re: recoup costs [ivan_99]
Oct 13, 2011 (10:00 pm)
All SFEs are automatics.
#42 of 138 Re: recoup costs [ivan_99]
Oct 14, 2011 (4:59 am)
Automatic Transmission, Cruise Control, Power Moonroof, Alloy Wheels, and "NO" SFE Package!