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#1845 of 2061 This month's Collectible Classic by texases

Jan 31, 2013 (10:31 am)

The Wagonaire in Automobile

#1846 of 2061 Re: This month's Collectible Classic [texases] by uplanderguy

Jan 31, 2013 (2:23 pm)

Replying to: texases (Jan 31, 2013 10:31 am)
Thanks for posting. I've seen Malcolm Berry's white R2 Wagonaire several times over the years. He put whitewalls and the stock wheels and wheelcovers on for this article, apparently. The seats are reupholstered, and production of '66 Studebakers was nearly twice what the article mentioned, but still a great article for folks like me who appreciate the final Studebakers.

#1847 of 2061 Re: Record price set for an R2 Avanti at Barrett-Jackson [fintail] by bhill2

Jan 31, 2013 (2:33 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 31, 2013 8:14 am)
Was it kind of a universal model mated to many varied cars? Maybe suited better to higher torque/domestic style applications.
 
It was indeed a universal model (Type 35). I think the primary problem was that it was not adapted to engines that needed to rev to create torque. Most domestic engines produced significant torque at low revs. The big problem in my dad's car was that it took forever for the torque converter to transmit any to the gear set.

#1848 of 2061 Re: Record price set for an R2 Avanti at Barrett-Jackson [bhill2] by fintail

Jan 31, 2013 (2:42 pm)

Replying to: bhill2 (Jan 31, 2013 2:33 pm)
That would explain it. Old I6 MBs have to be revved a bit to get going, too.

#1849 of 2061 M-B 180 ... by uplanderguy

Jan 31, 2013 (2:49 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 31, 2013 2:42 pm)
I'm home looking at the one pic I have of my dealer friend's Dad's old 180, and it is much-more trimmed than the black 180 you showed in the earlier posting. His car had two horizontal strips of chrome near the rocker panels, a strip running along the crease on the front fender and onto the door, and a strip that outlines (mostly) the bulge of the rear fender. It has two round spotllights low on the front and two bumper guards. It has the black hubcaps with tri-star emblem, and a trim ring. Either his was an upgraded model or he added those accessories himself.

#1850 of 2061 Re: M-B 180 ... [uplanderguy] by fintail

Jan 31, 2013 (3:44 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 31, 2013 2:49 pm)
Oh, that would be a 6 cylinder car, with all the chrome, probably a 220S or 220SE ponton. While they resemble the 4 cylinder cars, they are on different platforms, and are larger. While possible to add all the trim to a 4 cylinder car, I doubt it would have been done.
 
Here's a lovely 220SE ponton sunroof model next to a nice sunroof fintail

#1851 of 2061 Re: M-B 180 ... [fintail] by uplanderguy

Jan 31, 2013 (4:36 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 31, 2013 3:44 pm)
Except for no Skytop...er.., sunroof!...that pic looks exactly like Mr. Filer's car. For some reason I thought it was a 180 but I'm sure his son told me at some point it was a 220. Thanks for clarifying. As my daughter would say, sorry for being such a 'noob' about the cars! LOL

#1852 of 2061 Re: M-B 180 ... [uplanderguy] by fintail

Jan 31, 2013 (7:53 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 31, 2013 4:36 pm)
They look similar, pontons are easy to confuse. There was the smaller 4cyl car, the larger 6cyl car, and a weird mix car, the 219, which was a 6cyl nose and engine on a 4cyl body. Kind of like the 230 fintail, which had the base 6cyl engine in a 4cyl W110 body.

#1853 of 2061 Re: M-B 180 ... [fintail] by bhill2

Jan 31, 2013 (8:48 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 31, 2013 7:53 pm)
I'll be darned. I always thought that the 219 was a decontented 220. You learn something new every day. You are a veritable fount of Mercedes information, Fin.

#1854 of 2061 Re: M-B 180 ... [bhill2] by fintail

Feb 01, 2013 (8:00 am)

Replying to: bhill2 (Jan 31, 2013 8:48 pm)
I know a little, but don't consider myself a real expert
 
It was an unloved model, too.

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