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#22 of 36 Re: 2011 Ford Taurus Limited [jimmyl4]
by brucelinc
Jul 08, 2011 (6:19 am)
Jimmy, I realize your post is over a month old so maybe you have gotten this resolved. However, if I am reading the description of your problem correctly, it is NOT normal.
Ford issued a Service Bulletin for 2010 and 2011 Ford products with the transmission like yours - TSB 10-21-2. It involves replacing the TRS - transmission range sensor. I had the problem with my MKS. It was very intermittent. Basically, it would attempt to be in the wrong gear at the wrong time. It would even slip into neutral while crusing. Occasionally, it would attempt to take off in a higher gear and then drop back to low, causing the sensation that you describe. Replacement of the TRS per the TSB solved the problem.
If you are still having a concern, have your dealer check this out.
#23 of 36 Re: 2011 Ford Taurus Limited [brucelinc]
by jimmyl4
Jul 12, 2011 (7:26 pm)
Interestingly, we have not experienced this problem again since I posted in June 2011. Orginally it occurred every other week for a while from a standing start and with time the incidents have completely stopped. I told my wife that I think we were really a little too light footed on the accelerator from a standing start when we first took deliverly of the car in Nov. 2010. We just had the car serviced
8500 mi. at the dealership with no problems other than I got a 4-wheel alignment under warranty just to check and sure enough the toe was out on one side. My experience with new cars is that after the suspension has time to settle/adjust to road use miles, you had better check the alignment.
Bruce, thanks so much for the service tip and I will keep that in mind in case the problem occurs again. So far, we love this 2011 Taurus.
#24 of 36 Re: 2011 Ford Taurus Limited [jimmyl4]
by brucelinc
Jul 13, 2011 (6:03 am)
Glad to hear all is well. I may have over-reacted to your post since it sounded somewhat familiar. Still, I suggest you keep an eye on it. Here is the verbiage from Ford's bulletin:
ISSUE
Some 2009-2011 Edge, MKX, Taurus, Flex, MKS
and 2010-2011 MKT vehicles built
3/13/2009-6/30/2010 and equipped with a 6F50 or
6F55 transmissions may intermittently exhibit
slipping/neutral out, 5th gear start from stop,
electronic PRNDL error, backup camera on in Drive
or speed control dropping out intermittently, this
may be due to high resistance in the transmission
range (TR) sensor.
The complete TSB can be found by googling "6f50 TSB." Your original description of the stumble reminded me of what mine did - starting out in 5th and then immediately going back to low. It was very intermittent - maybe 3 times in 2 months. If it hadn't been for the bulletin, my dealer would never have found the problem.
#25 of 36 2011 Taurus Limited A/C operations
by wkbrad
Sep 27, 2011 (11:32 am)
I have a 2011 Taurus Limited. My A/C seems to cycle on and off every 10 to 20 seconds
as I'm driving even though the cabin temp has not reached my the set temp. I can feel the
difference in the air as it comes out of the vents. I took it to the dealer. They said the coolant
pressure was ok...the cycling times was ok. I was told that the compressor is suppose to cycle
often to save on gas milage. I would think this would eventually cause the compressor to fail early.
Any ideas???
#26 of 36 Re: 2011 Taurus Limited A/C operations [wkbrad]
by wwest
Sep 28, 2011 (9:16 am)
The A/C system has a pressure sensor that will disable the compressor when the high side pressure reaches ~375PSI. Restarts it at ~250PSI as the liquid refrigerant is used via cooling the evaporator.
"I can feel the difference...."
Unless the system lacks a (big enough??) dryer/reservior that shouldn't be.
The other reason for the compressor cycling might be the engine coolant "approaching" too high a temperature.
#27 of 36 Taurus 2011 SHO bucket Seats
by taurus2011
Sep 29, 2011 (5:36 am)
I've had my Taurus for about a year with 10k miles on it. Great car, but I think my driver bucket seat is starting to list to the right and back. Nothing out of the ordinary from a driving perspective. Mix of highway/city driving with drivers between 150-200 lbs.
Anyone having similar issues, seeing reported problems on this? I'd appreciate context or links as well if applicable.
#28 of 36 Re: Taurus 2011 Limited A/C cycling off and on
by wkbrad
Sep 29, 2011 (12:26 pm)
Thanks wwest. My friend has a 2011 Fusion so I took his car out to see if his
A/C cycled like mine. It in fact did. So I guess it is normal for the unit to cycle
often. I still don't like the way i can feel the "difference" of the refrigerated air
(compressor running) and the off cycle. This may be the reason I had problems with condensation on my windshield. It was a rainy day and the condensation was on the bottom of my windshield. I ran the "front windshield defroster" but it took quite a while to clear the bottom of the condensation. I would think that if the compressor cycled often that the air wouldn't be dry enough to dry the water. This is getting complicated . But thanks again for the info on the A/C in the car.
#29 of 36 Re: Taurus 2011 SHO bucket Seats [taurus2011]
by beerme1
Sep 30, 2011 (8:00 pm)
Im a Ford guy and am considering a 2011 demo SHO and when I see this complaint about the seat I cry. This has been a problem on every single Ford I think I have owned in my lifetime except the current 2010 Fusion and thats probably because it's a Mazda lol.
God I cant believe Ford is still making seats that tend to fall down and in from a driver perspective. Wow this alone makes me want to reconsider this purchase. I know the drill with the listing back and to the right all to well with Ford. I'm really surprised more people dont complain about it actually.
It makes you feel off center so to speak and you're only talking about 150-200 lbs. makes it even worse.
From a Ford Fan, c'mon Ford.
#30 of 36 Re: Taurus 2011 Limited A/C cycling off and on [wkbrad]
by wwest
Oct 02, 2011 (8:59 am)
Windshield condensation is an entirely different issue, problem.
Ford has now adopted the seriously flawed NipponDenso, Denso US, automatic climate control design. To most quickly remove condensation from your windshield interior surface you will now be required to turn up the temperature setpoint, radically so, and then switch to defrost/defog/demist mode.
The Denso design, once the cabin temperature has reached your temperature setpoint, or closely nearby, will rely EXCLUSIVELY on the A/C's dehumidification capability for defogging the windshield. The A/C's functionality for this purpose is a complete and total WILD CARD, it may or may not work, depending on local climatic conditions. If the OAT is below ~35F the dehumidification capability of the A/C will be non-existent so the compressor is disabled.
To the end of correcting some of these flaws Toyota has added a few C-BEST options that the owner can select. One of these allows the A/C compressor to be disabled indefinitely, even in defog mode, simply by switching it off one time. Prior to that option I always disconnected my compressor clutch wiring throughout the non-cooling need period.
The second option prevents the system from automatically switching into cooling mode, dash outlet flow vs footwell. The importance of this is that in footwell (heating) mode a small portion of "warm" airflow is routed to the interior of the windshield. Wherein in cooling mode the windshield is allowed to cool (to dewpoint?) as a function of roadspeed and the onrush of cool/COLD airflow.
My Lexus does not have this second option so I must be especially diligent in watching for my system to switch to cooling mode in a cool climate and allways switch it back to footwell, heating mode.
There is now a third C-best option available that addresses the A/C control issue when the compressor is automatically disabled with the OAT below ~35F but I don't now remember what it is/does.
Your Ford may have these same options.
#31 of 36 Re: Taurus 2011 SHO bucket Seats [beerme1]
by wwest
Oct 02, 2011 (9:00 am)
Go to Ebay and buy some Toyota, or even Lexus front seats for your Ford.