Last post on Nov 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM
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#2 of 9 Best year for a TDI
Nov 03, 2010 (9:55 am)
My 2009 TDI has been trouble free.
#3 of 9 Re: Which year of TDI is the best? [zundar]
Nov 03, 2010 (5:37 pm)
If you are looking for inexpensive way in to TDI-ownership... Pre-2005 has the 'original' TDI engine in it. They made literally millions of this 1.9L engine and it gets BETTER MPG than the newer ones. That engine is good for about 500,000 miles if the proper oil has been changed regularly.
After that, there was a few years of the Pumpe-Duse engine... The camshaft has 4 additional lobes to drive high-pressure fuel pumps for each cylinder. STAY AWAY from that one. It requires a very special oil and the camshaft still may disenagrate.
A manual xmission is the only way to acheive 55+ MPG. Automatics are too inefficent and waste engine-power.
Dont forget the 12-year/ Unlimited mile corrosion warantee. So you are protected from rust for a very long time no matter which VW you chose.
#4 of 9 Re: Which year of TDI is the best? [zundar]
Nov 09, 2010 (2:45 pm)
I used to have a 2003 TDI which had the ALH (pre-PD) engine. It was trouble-free, and I got ~40 mpg. Now I drive a 2010 TDI Sportswagen which gets about 43 mpg (and climbing), and its 2l CR engine provides a lot more power than the older ones.
If you are looking to buy used, well, the Sportswagen has only been out since 2009. Both years models are pretty pricey, and a few of the 2010's have expensive issues with their HPFP.
If you get one of the older TDI's make sure you avoid the auto tranny (01M) which was a POS. Apart from that, with regular upkeep (correct oil, TB changes etc) these cars can last for many many miles.
The 2011 models are said to be cheaper (VW trying to gain market share) so some might go for new over used.
I think if you drive a lot (long distances!) a TDI makes sense, otherwise go for the gasser.
#5 of 9 2011 Jetta SportWagon
Nov 09, 2010 (4:56 pm)
Isn't the 2011 Jetta SportWagon the same as 2010? I understood that VW did not change the wagon yet, so for 2011 it will still be the old model and will not match up with the lower cost one until 2012.
#6 of 9 Re: Which year of TDI is the best? [zundar]
Sep 23, 2011 (6:24 am)
do NOT buy a 2009....just passed 80k on mine...loved it up to this point. The DPF(diesel particulate filter) and catalytic converter have to be replaced. $4000.00 that's right THOUSAND. I called VW customer service and was told they are only required (federally) to cover those parts 8yrs or 80k(Iwas at 80,800) but they would send me a service voucher for $250...Thanks....same week I spent 450.00 for a door latch...and 750.00 for new glow plugs...as a side note I never missed a regular servicing and 75% of milage is highway.......also timing belt is a scheduled change 90k($1200-$1400 qoute by dealer) so much for saving money with a TDI! BE CAREFUL
#7 of 9 Re: Which year of TDI is the best? [roccus]
Sep 23, 2011 (6:28 pm)
So sorry you feel gyped... but I fail to see a problem with the "vehicle"
I shall explain:
*)GlowPlugs are considered a "wear item" (and only cost about $30 each as they fail)
*)Timing-Belt is also a "wear item" and it was a KNOWN cost when you purchased the car. (You KNEW at what mileage and how much it would cost)
As for the "Emissions Control Equipment" (DPF and Cat) You were handed a "Federal Emissions Warantee" when you purchased the vehicle. Have you read it?
May I suggest you join the TDI Club website and READ READ READ to bone up on your vehicle. I am estimating you can save several thousand dollars with some education.
HINT: Perhaps it is your DEALER that is costing you money.
#8 of 9 Re: Which year of TDI is the best? [bpeebles]
Nov 13, 2011 (2:04 pm)
Yes, it is usually dealers who cost the money, But who are you going to trust wilth changing the timing belt? And yes you can get a glow plug for $35. But the dealer charges $750. - so what is your point? Are you saying the Tdi is a good value because everyone should change their own glow plugs? And you are the first person I have heard read emmisions manual - so what was your point on that - Read so you are less uncomfortable about major part failures?
Lastly, Do i really need to join a club to own an economical vehicle
Steve. 2001 Golf TDI. (sold at 40k) to avoid timing belt 40k interval change
#9 of 9 Re: Which year of TDI is the best? [stevio]
Nov 13, 2011 (3:07 pm)
WHAH: You missed almost every point I tried to make... it must be my fault - please allow me to try again
!) "who are you going to trust wilth changing the timing belt?" Do some research, there are lists of "trustworthy" mechanics who are not VW dealers and are very experienced in TDI maintenance.
2)"And yes you can get a glow plug for $35. But the dealer charges $750. - so what is your point?" My point is DONT GO TO THE DEALER to perform a $50 job when they charge $750
3) "Are you saying the Tdi is a good value because everyone should change their own glow plugs?" I am suggesting that you should either do basic work yourself - or quit complainin about dealer-ripoffs.
4)"And you are the first person I have heard read emmisions manual - so what was your point on that - Read so you are less uncomfortable about major part failures? " The point is that the Federal Government has rules in place which forces the MANUFACTURERS to cover all emmissions equipment for longer than the 'standard' vehicle warantee. All That stuff is still covered in your vehicle. If you had read the Federal Emissions Warantee - you would know this stuff.
5)"Do i really need to join a club to own an economical vehicle " The TDICLUB is the very best source for TDI information. It may have the word "club" in its name but it is no more a club than edmunds is.