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Subaru Forester, Wagon
#51 of 134 Thinking of a Forester
Jan 31, 2011 (11:52 am)
My family moved to southern, Fairfield County, CT (10 miles from NY border) over the summer and we've found driving around this winter to be pretty difficult. Both my 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH & my wife's 2010 Acura TSX are equipped with Michelin Pilot Arctic Alpin snow tires at all 4 corners. They don't seem to plow very well, at least not when I leave for work at 6:30 AM to drive to the South Bronx. My wife has had some difficulty navigating semi or barely plowed streets as well as snow banks at the foot of people's driveways. I'm thinking of possibly replacing her TSX with a Forester Limited XT. I like the ground clearance, standard AWD, the fact that you "sit down in it" like a car (as opposed to the "sit on top of it" like an SUV), the cargo room (although our Acura has a very deep and spacious trunk), Subaru's reputation for reliability (Her Dad is on his 3rd Outback) & quality.
One of my concerns is with the transmission. The Automatic is a 4 speed which is pretty archaic (I'm sure it is bulletproof by now, but even GM has 6 speed autos now). Are there plans out there to bring the CVT to the Forester line? Can the CVT handle the torque of the turbo or are they developing a 6 speed automatic?
#52 of 134 Re: Thinking of a Forester [nyccarguy]
Feb 01, 2011 (7:59 am)
I think the CVT is very likely, though we're not sure when.
The XT's engine is very torquey so it's still more than quick enough. My wife has a non-turbo model and even that is adequate.
8.9" of ground clearance and 25 degree approach and departure angles are class-best for the crossovers that aren't trucky.
We love ours.
One BIG problem, though - we fight for the keys when it snows. Today she won, so I had to park my Miata (summer tires) and drive the family minivan to work.
#53 of 134 Re: Thinking of a Forester [ateixeira]
Feb 01, 2011 (11:06 am)
I'm sure the XT's turbo motor is quick & the n/a motor is adequate. I'm just thinking that the gas mileage & acceleration on the turbo could be improved by the addition of the CVT or 2 extra gears.
Maybe the move I'll make is to lease one really cheap towards the end of the year (n/a) with a 12K per year lease. This way i can supplement my Prelude's mileage (At my current clip, about 21K per year) & we can still keep her TSX which we love.
One of the advantages of having to be at work at 7:30 AM, I'd take whatever car I want
I'd probably end up using the car more in the winter during the days when the snows comes down (unless she has to work, Monday & Thursday) & she'd probably end up driving it more over the summer (taking the kids to the beach).
If anybody has time & own an '09+ Forester, can you measure the cargo area front to back & left to right? Thanks!
#55 of 134 Re: Thinking of a Forester [montreal1]
Feb 01, 2011 (7:11 pm)
Wow Montreal! Thanks for the fantastic link! The "A" measurement on the Forester (the one I asked for) is 35.5". I went into the garage and measured the same dimension on our TSX. 45".
#56 of 134 Re: Thinking of a Forester [nyccarguy]
Feb 02, 2011 (7:35 am)
That can be misleading, make sure you account for the width between the wheel wells, i.e. measurement "E", which is 42.2" on the Forester.
For instance, the Accord Crosstour is around 33" there, so the Forester is about 9" wider (!).
You want a wide opening, sure, but you also want things like a dog crate to fit inside between those wheel wells.
The Forester's compact suspension really helps there, it embarrasses the Accord Crosstour, at least.
#57 of 134 Re: Thinking of a Forester [ateixeira]
Feb 02, 2011 (9:44 am)
Overall though, it is a fairly compact space. That was the first thing I noticed about it (aside from the generous occupant space), but decided I could adjust to that restriction through the addition of my hitch-mounted cargo tray and roof basket, when needed (which is not often).
#58 of 134 Re: Thinking of a Forester [xwesx]
Feb 02, 2011 (10:35 am)
Well, true, but it is a compact crossover, after all.
Subaru did shape the space very well. In their biggest-box test, it beats a lot of bigger SUVs, even some mid-sizers, because the cargo area itself is shaped like a box.
Feb 02, 2011 (11:19 am)
That's my biggest beef with a lot of the wagons these days (Audi A4, BMW 3 series come to mind) is that most manufacturers are so concerned with making their wagons "sporty" instead of practical that they rake the rear window so much that it severly impedes on the cargo capacity.
#60 of 134 Re: Boxy Shape [nyccarguy]
Feb 02, 2011 (11:28 am)
I was looking at minivans at the Philly Auto Show and the Quest makes up for a shorter cargo floor by boxing off the rear end.
I like it when they design around a single boxy shape, rather than scoop out little nooks and crannies after the fact.
The new rear suspension intrudes much less than the Struts from my 1998 model did.