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#119 of 134 My new 2011 Forester: Impressions
Oct 22, 2011 (8:00 pm)
I had to buy a new car recently due to an accident where a guy rear-ended my car and totaled it. I was thinking of AWD for my region (western PA) so I eventually decided on a 2011 Subaru Forester Limited. Overall, I'm happy with the vehicle. A few pet peeves:
The Forester has no automatic door locks when your car is in motion. I'm seen people online say they hate them and want to lock the doors themselves. That's fine, but when you FORGET, it would be nice for the car to do it for you when you go over 10 mph. (I read one person online claim that they drive with doors unlocked in case they end up in a fiery crash. Do me a favor... let me know when you're on the road so I can stay off...)
My other pet peeve is that the Bluetooth speed dial feature (using pre-programmed numbers for the 1-6 buttons on your radio) does not work if your car is in motion. You can press the same buttons to change radio stations while the car is in motion, but when you want to use them for speed dialing preset numbers, the system says it's a "safety concern" and refuses. The manual says you should pull over and stop. So to press a radio button to dial a number, I need to stop on the shoulder of a busy highway. Okay...that's "safe".
Well, overall, the vehicle drives fine and I'll have to get used to these "features". The buying experience was very pleasant. In the dealership, I got sort of a "Saturn-like" vibe with the fireplace and lounge, popcorn maker, and low pressure. Waiting for the snow to see how the AWD holds up.
#120 of 134 Re: My new 2011 Forester: Impressions [expwyman]
Oct 24, 2011 (8:38 am)
I agree with you regarding the Bluetooth "feature." That seems rather pointless to me. I thought the rationale behind the hands-free Bluetooth was to address and mitigate safety concerns related to telephone use while driving. Pulling to the side of the road for the purpose of taking or making a call is rarely a "safe" alternative, unless one is entirely leaving (such as a rest area, parking lot, etc) the roadway.
As for the auto locks, I guess I just don't get why someone would want their doors locked while in motion... or even care for that matter. To me, that is just a nanny feature much like the above (which makes the presence of one and not the other even more perplexing). If one wants their doors locked, then lock them. If not, don't.
The AWD is fantastic. If you decide to leave your stock tires mounted, you may disagree initially, but try those same tires on a different car and you'll soon change your tune.
#121 of 134 Clutch, transmission, rattles
Nov 01, 2011 (1:12 pm)
I currently own a 2002 Forester (purchased Dec, 2001), and am thinking about buying a new 2012. Does anyone have an opinion on the clutch and/or manual transmission? In 2002 Subaru had a lot of problems with clutch "chatter" (aka shudder, shutter etc.) to the extent that my dealer replaced my clutch for free. (They also said the new clutch would only be better, not great, and they were right, it still chatters on occasion, but doesn't shake the car as bad.)
So how is the new clutch? Does it engage smoothly in all weather conditions etc.?
Is the transmission as "notchy" as the old ones? (I also own a 96 OBS and 2000 2.5RS which my kids drive, the trannys are all about the same, but the 96 has a good clutch.)
Finally, how are the new ones for rattles? Especially after driving on dirt roads.
Any opinions about the new cars would be appreciated as those things are hard to judge on a test drive.
#122 of 134 Re: Clutch, transmission, rattles [djaecks]
Nov 01, 2011 (2:21 pm)
The clutch is fine on the 2010, so I think 2012 would be a safe bet, too. The transmission is probably similar to what you're used to, if not exactly the same. It's not buttery, yet it works just fine.
Rattles. Oh, dear. Let's just say that you should expect them to develop within the first couple thousand miles, but one visit to a competent dealership will do the trick. Every 2009+ I have been in has front door rattles (driver and passenger) but, once addressed, they have not come back. I will say that my 2010 is far less rattle-prone than the 2007 and 2008 Outbacks I briefly owned. The 2007, especially, nearly drove me insane - and that was after coming out of a 200,000+ mile 1996 Outback!
I think you'll enjoy it. Compared to the 2002, the steering is going to feel lighter and it will have more body roll, but with copious improvements in every other department.
#123 of 134 Re: Clutch, transmission, rattles [xwesx]
Nov 01, 2011 (6:27 pm)
Sounds good, thanks for your help!
#124 of 134 Re: Clutch, transmission, rattles [djaecks]
Nov 02, 2011 (10:58 am)
My brother's 2011 does not chatter like the gen 1 model did (98-01). Nothing like it at all.
#125 of 134 2012 wheels and tires
Nov 02, 2011 (1:11 pm)
I notice that the 2012 has 17 inch wheels and slightly slimmer tires. Has anybody driven one of these and do you notice any change in the ride. I would think that the lower profile tires might bring a choppier ride. Also worry that lower profiles might be less resilient on potholes, etc and could lead to rim damage. Thoughts anyone??
#126 of 134 2011 Forester Transmission Slip
Nov 04, 2011 (1:05 pm)
My 2011 Forester is 10 months old or so with 12k miles. I've noticed the transmission "slipping" when I slow down to take turns. I slow down, make the turn, put my foot on the gas and the transmission will hesitate and suddenly engage and the car will lurch forward.
Is this a common issue with this car?
#127 of 134 Re: 2011 Forester Transmission Slip [tomasdelsol]
Nov 04, 2011 (3:58 pm)
Yes, it is normal behavior for the 4EAT automatic transmission. You caught it downshifting between gears and rushed it. It is one of several annoying behaviors of this transmission.
#128 of 134 Average real city mileage for Forester?
Nov 30, 2011 (8:58 am)
What's the average mileage y'all are getting for city driving in your Foresters? I just bought a 2012 and am hoping it will get more than the 19 or so the gas calculator in the dash is saying...