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#90 of 224 Re: Features is where it lacks [isellhondas]
May 11, 2011 (3:05 pm)
Actually it has. I read an article in WSJ this week about the used car market and how prices have soared. I check the prices on my cars every now and then; they include two Hyundais now. The 2004 Elantra hasn't lost any value in over 2 years; the 2007 Sonata is worth almost what I paid for it 18 months ago, and it has 15,000 more miles now.
And given the general improvement in some of Honda's competitors over the past few years, and the fact the Civic went nearly 6 years in between redesigns, it should not be a shock that the Civic is no longer the resale champ. Maybe ALG will anoint the new 2012 Civic as #1 in the compact class now, who knows. If they do, I'm sure you'll say the same things about ALG's numbers not meaning anything.
#91 of 224 Re: Features is where it lacks [backy]
May 12, 2011 (5:07 am)
Except....there can be a huge difference between what somebody says a car is "worth" than what they can actually sell it for!
If you really think your 2004 Hyundai is worth the same as it was two years ago, you are truly dreaming!
#92 of 224 Re: Elantra GLS is a lower trim level than Civic EX [backy]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
May 12, 2011 (6:37 am)
You don't have to sign anything if the salesperson goes with you on the test drive.
The form is only if you want to do a solo test drive, and you're just signing to say that you'll follow the mapped route and not abuse the vehicle, etc., while you're out on the drive. This last time, I didn't care if the salesperson went with me or not, but decided to sign the form & go alone because it was a small dealership, and there were several customers on the lot, and I didn't want to take the salesperson away from them just to monitor me. The route had residential, business, and highway driving, so that was fine by me.
#93 of 224 Re: Elantra GLS is a lower trim level than Civic EX [kirstie_h]
May 12, 2011 (9:41 am)
when we went car shopping a year or so ago we test drove a Subaru. We signed a form that gave us permission to test drive the car without a salesperson for one hour. Did not give us any routes to follow.
#94 of 224 Re: Elanta 2011 vs Civic 2012 [faircomparo]
May 12, 2011 (10:25 am)
I guess I will have to drive the 2012 Civic to see for myself if the massive refinement from the 2006 thru 2011 models to the 2012 you noted is actually evident to me. I will also drive an Elantra. With regard to the hail damage, while waiting in long lines for insurance adjustment I saw pretty much every make represented all with mostly large amounts of damage. I can only recount my own story and the cars in question were literally parked less than 10 feet from each other. I never thought I would look upon a mid-90's Dodge product as a paragon of quality (although after 14 years of ownership it is pretty good in that respect) but compared to our Civic it was incredibly hail resistant and, as I stated, suffered minimal shallow dents. But the Honda!!! Terrible.
#95 of 224 Re: Elantra GLS is a lower trim level than Civic EX [kirstie_h]
May 12, 2011 (11:04 am)
I guess I was not clear. I have never signed any form for ANY kind of test drive, including solo's. Just provide proof that I am licensed. And I've done dozens of those over the years. Maybe laws or dealer practices are different in MN than where you live.
#96 of 224 Re: Elanta 2011 vs Civic 2012 [targettuning]
May 12, 2011 (1:21 pm)
I saw a parking lot full of hail damaged cars and some were much worse than others and the makes and models didn't seem to matter.
#97 of 224 Re: Elantra GLS is a lower trim level than Civic EX [backy]
May 12, 2011 (1:24 pm)
Some stores are sloppy about sold test drives. After reading about a three hour 100 mile abusive test drive, hopefully you can see why?
We once had a customer with the gall to drive a car from another store to our store so he could test drive one of ours. We ended up selling him a car.
Four hours later, we called that other store and asked them to come get their car. Somehow, it left our lot wth our licence plate frames installed on it!
#98 of 224 Re: Elantra GLS is a lower trim level than Civic EX [isellhondas]
May 12, 2011 (8:20 pm)
Actually, my friend bought the Honda, so no damage done to the Honda dealer. My friend was actually going to by the Elantra until he went on this test drive. For those who complained about the abuse we gave both these cars on our test drive, both the Honda and Elantra sales people were asked if we could test the cars back to back on an exhaustive test. The Hyandai sales person said he normally goes on the test drive but since we wanted to test both cars he rathered we went alone so "he wouldn't know what we did on our test drive." his words not mine. We did go for longer than he thought, but he knew he didn't specify a time limit. We had a good talk to him on our return and talked to him about what we found. He said he had taken the new Civic on a test drive himself a couple of days earlier when they had first arrived at the adjacent Honda dealership. He told us straight out that he also agreed with us "that the new Civic was a better drivers car than the Elantra, but that the Elantra had more features for $2000 less money." [The Elantra by the way was a demonstrator car with nearly 500 miles on it. The Honda however was brand new with only 10 miles on it before we drove and then bought it.]
The Civic has now been owned for one week and is averaging 37.5mpg on mixed hwy/city driving. (yes it is been driven carefully now) My friend said he enjoys driving the car and loved going on a long drive through the country just for the fun of driving it. He liked the look of the Elantra better and that along with price and warranty were the reasons for his initial decision. But after driving both over the tests we put them through he had and still has no regrets whatsoever that he bought the Civic, and the Civic's looks are growing on him!
#99 of 224 Re: Elanta 2011 vs Civic 2012 [isellhondas]
May 13, 2011 (4:01 am)
Yeah, some cars were more/less damaged depending on which part of town they were in when the storm hit BUT in my case both were 10 feet apart and I can assure you the Honda took the much larger hit (pun intended!). Very thin sheet metal on at least the trunk lid, hood, and roof surfaces. Even damaged along the flanks of the car. So, if the intent was to "prove" that all kinds of cars can be damaged from severe hail that much is true but when the Honda looked like the cars on that recent TV commercial (for an insurance company) where a lawn tractor runs through a gravel pit peppering two cars with thrown gravel and the Dodge survived intact for the most part...well, no one will convince me the Honda isn't inferior as far as sheet metal integrity. End of "my" story.