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#212 of 224 Re: press request [kirstie_h]
Feb 25, 2012 (1:13 pm)
Hybrids are a "green-washing" farce and uneconomical.
A good efficient internal combustion engine on a well designed chassis , like the Civic's, with 5 speed computerized automatic, is the way to go if you run the numbers.on fuel consumption and economics.
Most people don't.
A hybrid costs more, has dirty batteries that are an environmental hazard , depreciates more than the gas Civic and the gas model will be resold in under a decade easily at a good market price. The batteries on the hybrid will need replacement in 8 years , and the electronic complexity is prone to more failure.It depreciates faster according to the numbers.
In my opinion,Hybrids ara a feel good farce with today's technology.
Micro diesels anyone?
Rely on the real math, run the numbers, buy a modern gasoline car , even at 6 bucks a gallon!
#213 of 224 Re: press request [arthur16]
Feb 26, 2012 (9:06 am)
...with 5 speed computerized automatic, ...
I'll take a 6 speed auto if I can get it... or a slick 6 speed manual if it has a tall 6th for relaxed highway cruising. Unfortunately, neither is available, at least not on "regular" Civics. Many Civic competitors offer one or both of these trannies now.
Mar 08, 2012 (8:14 am)
for economy the 6 manual is the way to go, but the 5 on the civic should still beat the automatic.
#215 of 224 Re: Civic 2012 - Upload pictures? [newcar45]
Mar 25, 2012 (11:06 am)
I really don't like the 2012 civic as it looks very staid, like a car an old person would buy. The rear end looks like an older camry...waiting to see what the next version looks like and hoping that some better designers were hired.
#216 of 224 40 mpg a requirement?
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Apr 20, 2012 (6:20 am)
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Oct 09, 2012 (6:37 am)
My Civic came with Firestone Affinity tires which I feel are harsh and noisy. I'd like to replace them with Hancook Optima 727s which by experience are smooth and quiet. Has anyone found a better tire for their Civic?
#218 of 224 Re: Replacement tires [dragontooth]
Oct 21, 2012 (6:02 pm)
I just put on Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval A S tires back in August and have been pretty satisfied with them overall...wish the tread was a bit meatier but got an o k price otd. Was at the tire shop on Friday and noticed they no longer display the tire anymore, so I suspect they discontinued them. I originally wanted the closeout Bridgestone G019's(?), but my mechanic said the Firehawk was a better tire overall, so I took his advice. Since I don't drive much anymore and am not quite at 34.5k miles yet after over 6 years of ownership, I'm hoping that these will be the last ones I buy for this car. Anticipate that by 2016, I'll be ready to replace my Civic. And I know this car will be great till then and beyond.
(P.S. I put the latest version of the Affinity tires on my wife's Mazda and my daughter's Versa and they have been great. Stopped by Tires Plus earlier to have them check the Mazda's air pressure and even the tech commented on how well they are wearing. I find them to be pretty quiet also.)
#219 of 224 Re: Elanta 2011 vs Civic 2012 [sivicman]
Nov 12, 2012 (9:42 am)
I "was" a die-hard Honda person, as my last car was an '06 Civic and '04 CR-V before that. I thought my next car would be another Honda. I looked at Hondas and felt they were over priced for the ammenities being offered, some of which were outdated i.e., transmission. I purchased the 2013 Elantra PZEV-GLS. Below are just some my reasons for that decision. The standard features offered in the Elantra for a lower price tag, versus having to upgrade to the EX/EX-L levels to acquire some of the same features, just weren't worth the additional cost.
Elantra vs. Civic Sedans - Standard Features (note: there are features offered in the coupes, not offered in the Sedans)
Elantra: 1. 6-speed transmission (both AT and MT) Offered since 2011
2. 4-disk brakes
3. Heated front seats (cloth) on GLS Model - Great on cold
mornings/days and they heat up in about 30 seconds, vs. having to
wait til the engine temperature has generated enough heat to heat
the interior cabin.
3b. Heated front AND back seats - leather offered in the Limited
4. Heated outside mirrors - great features on cold/moist mornings.
5. External Temperature Display
6. Rear Seat center arm rest w/ cup hold
7. 172 watt stereo, SiriusXM radio (90-day trial offer) 6 Speakers
8. Double Overhead Cam (DOHC) with 145hp in the Practical Zero
Emissions Vehicle (PZEV) California only. Non-California/PZEV
models have 148hp
9. 5yr/60k mile standard warranty. 10yr/100k mile drive train
10. Intermittent wipers w/ variable speed in the "mist" function
11. Interior quality - overall better quality materials used.
Civic: 1. 5-speed transmission (both AT and MT) - 6-speed M/T SI-model only
2. Front disk/rear drum on DX/LX - 4 disk offered on EX/SI models only
3. Heated seats on EX-L (leather) only
4. Heated outside mirrors - not offered
5. External Temperature Display - not offered.
6. Rear seat center arm rest - offered in EX/EX-L
7. 160 watt stereo in the Sedans, 4-Speakers - LX, 6-Speakers - EX
The Civic Coupe offers a 360 watt system. Why does Honda think
that those who drive sedans wouldn't appreciate a power stereo
8. Single Overhead Cam (SOHC) - 140hp for LX/EX/EX-L Gas models.
Horsepower differs for the Hybrid and SI models.
9. 3yr/36k mile standard warranty. 5yr/60k drive train warranty.
10. Intermittent wipers - only 1 variable speed for "mist" offered in LX -
variable speed "mist" option in EX/EX-L
11. Interior quality downgraded in the 2012, in comparison from
previous model years - preferred the interior quality of my '06 Civic.
The dash in the 2012 had a shiney, cheap look to it - preferred my
dash in my '06. They also did away with the moveable cover over
the center cupholders which I felt gave it a more polished look, not
to mention provided another area to conceal frequently used items.
Okay, so here are just a few of the items that stood out to me in comparing the Elantra to the Civic. Also, some here have mentioned the mileage discrepancy issue. I recall when I purchased my '06 civic the EPA was 30city/40hwy. It took about 10k for me to really see the car achieve and actually surpass that EPA mileage. I actually averaged mid 30s for city/hwy and achieved 47.8 mpg straight hwy on roadtrips. So, with that said, I expect to achieve and surpass the EPA mileage (even though Hyundai/Kia mileage has been reprimanded for over-estimating the mileage). The EPA mileage sticker on my Elantra stated 29/city, 40/hwy - AVERAGE 33 mpg. I achieved 31.9 my first tank fill-up. I use my ECO button, and my cruise control as often as possible. I'm also not a lead foot, so I don't do hard start/stops, thus I'm able to maximize my mileage. I expect achieve the 33 mpg city/hwy and meet if not exceed the 40mpg hwy on roadtrips. Just my two cents, hope you find it useful.