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#154 of 221 Re: Civic no longer recommended by Consumer Reports! [isellhondas]
by samnoe
Sep 17, 2011 (6:54 pm)
See, I personal don't care much about looks, as long it's not ugly (like, sorry, the 2011 Honda Odyssey), and I don't need the Civic to be "fresh", the way it looks today is fine for me, although the interior is rather where it could really use a boost and improvement IMO, especially compared to the newer runners.
But, I recently drove the Hyundai Sonata (not the Elantra, yet), it's not bad at all, but after driving my Civic for the past few years, I would have never considered to change it for a Sonata. The driving experience is much more of an important factor to me than pretty looks, but then again, some features I do need and appreciate them. Again, I am not asking here for heated rear seats, and not demanding overly complicated touch screens as recent Fords with Sync systems. I actually do appreciate the simplicity of the Civic's controls, in oppose to other Honda's that are being criticized for button cluttered dash.
Once again I state my opinion, if Honda want to succeed, I recommend survey your customers, and listen to what they ask for! Easiest, cheapest way to do some good research.
#155 of 221 Re: Civic no longer recommended by Consumer Reports! [samnoe]
by isellhondas
Sep 18, 2011 (9:57 am)
I don't care much about looks either and given today's safety standards, it's difficult to make very many styling changes.
And I don't care much anyway. It's a CAR and not an expression of myself.
I believe Honda will continue as the market leader but they better be aware of the competition that has emerged recently.
#156 of 221 Re: Civic no longer recommended by Consumer Reports! [isellhondas]
by backy
Sep 18, 2011 (10:54 am)
I believe Honda will continue as the market leader...
Which market does Honda lead? Not the USA market.
#157 of 221 Re: Civic no longer recommended by Consumer Reports! [backy]
by isellhondas
Sep 18, 2011 (12:02 pm)
What outsells Civics in that class of cars?
#158 of 221 Re: Civic no longer recommended by Consumer Reports! [isellhondas]
by sandman_6472
Sep 18, 2011 (1:28 pm)
I've got a good feeling that in the next few years, the Elantra may just take over that crown from the Civic...from the reviews I've read, the car is just that good! And once they get their supply problems under control, things are gonna change. Probably Hyundai's biggest problems with the Elantra right now is that the demand far outweighs the supply, so many folks can't just drive one off the lot. This pent up demand will eventually equalize once the supply catches up and then there should be plenty of all models for buyers to have a choice. Honda should be very worried actually...they are no longer the benchmark they once always were.
A shame that they didn't do more with the 2012 model to get the buzz the Elantra is getting. I know I was very impressed just sitting in the showroom in one...if things were different, I'd of bought one then and there!
The Sandman
#159 of 221 Re: Civic no longer recommended by Consumer Reports! [isellhondas]
by backy
Sep 18, 2011 (3:35 pm)
YTD, both the Cruze and Corolla have outsold the Civic.
Anyway, you didn't say "Civic". You said "Honda".
#160 of 221 Re: Civic no longer recommended by Consumer Reports! [backy]
by isellhondas
Sep 18, 2011 (5:08 pm)
Part of that reason is because they sell them to the rental car companies en masse with is something Honda has never done.
Also, the Japan earthquake REALLY hurt production. Honda is struggling to provide inventory right now and they are still far behind.
#161 of 221 Re: Civic no longer recommended by Consumer Reports! [isellhondas]
by backy
Sep 19, 2011 (9:13 pm)
Toyota is based in Japan also.
Sep 22, 2011 (12:44 pm)
I've finally come to the conclusion that there can be problems with every make and model of car...no car or company is immune from some sort of problem. The way the car company handles the "problem" is what really matters. Just because sometimes the resolution is not what the consumer would like doesn't make the whole company & every one of their products inherently bad...some common sense on both sides needs to be used here! I've had three warranty issues with my '06 Civic over the years and sure, it's a p i a to get it resolved sometimes, but it doesn't make the whole car/company bad. With any mechanical thing made up of thousands of parts, put together by people & machines, the parts coming from different sources over time, some problems are bound to happen. I'm going through a a/c compressor issue right now that makes the car blow out warmish air is very annoying, especially with the low mileage on the car. But I'm not going to trash the whole Honda lineup and all Civics as being a horrible car, that is just sort of silly actually. I don't know exactly how Honda will handle the problem yet so to jump off the handle with silly remarks doesn't make much sense. No matter what happens, the Civic is still a fine car and the numbers speak volumes about it.
I tend to be somewhat on the logical side and look at life as 1/2 full even though these past 6 or so years have been pretty bad for our family & myself. But I tend to look for the good in things so I'm not gonna stress about this situation yet. In the scheme of things, there are so many more things to stress about in life. Being negative takes a lot of wasted energy which can be used for other positive things. So sure, I'm annoyed that I might have to spend a large amount of $ to fix the problem, but if Honda decides to help out with some of it will be a happy bonus. And if not, I still have to fix the a/c especially living in South Florida. Such is life!
I am,
The Sandman