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#31 of 38 Re: curious to hear updated comments from owners years later [ateixeira]
by gimmestdtranny
Jan 04, 2011 (12:14 pm)
You and Wes and some others here will likely know this, but I have been trying to find out what year (or years among more than one model) did Subaru start to hot galvanize the body sheet metal? Is the floor pan also HG? What about the roof? I am amazed the number of brands that do not HG the roof, yet a stone chip near the edge of a windshield can become a recurring cancerous growth, with so much power it can literally take a perfectly good car off the road? Why? Cuz the rust keeps breaking the windshield, and to have that particular section of a car literally cut out and replaced is next to impossible, especially with any long term results. And of course the cost to do such a repair would be nothing less than huge.
So the moral here is inspect those tiny marks around the windshield edge. Get grease on them before the salt comes or you plan to fix.
I do think some mfgrs are HG'ing the roofs now too, but not sure which ones.
HG is one of the single most significant advances in deterring rust, since they realized they had to have chassis drain holes here and there back in the 60's.
#32 of 38 Re: curious to hear updated comments from owners years later [gimmestdtranny]
by ateixeira
Jan 04, 2011 (12:15 pm)
I want to say the '90 Legacy got it first, but I'm not sure which specific panels were treated.
#33 of 38 Re: curious to hear updated comments from owners years later [ateixeira]
by gimmestdtranny
Jan 04, 2011 (12:23 pm)
Well that is a shocker as I have seen either Leg or OB wagons up here that have real problems with rust and while I am not sure, i did assume they were a lot newer than a 90 or even a 95..
But not as bad as what Mazda had in 02+ with their wheel well lips eh? Talk about a pitiful excuse for rust prevention in relatively new cars. I have seen many but it hit close to home with my old GF's daughter's pride and joy. A white 02 Protege5 wagon. It had holes through the wheel opening lips back in 2008
Just nicely out of wty even tho she complained prior. They did the old switch and bait put-off saying that particular corrosion wasn't covered for reasons of blah blah blah routine.
She washed her car often too.
#34 of 38 Re: curious to hear updated comments from owners years later [gimmestdtranny]
by xwesx
Jan 04, 2011 (12:53 pm)
I cannot remember when they started galvanizing, but I, too, believe it was early '90s. The 95+ Legacy/Outbacks were definitely HG (not sure about the roofs), but yes, there are those that still have rust. The problem is that regardless of the treatment, if you have areas that get salt buildup and remain wet, they will rust. There are many areas that have folded metal, plastic covers, etc., where buildup of dirt, salt, debris, etc., can occur. When that happens, it takes a long time for moisture to dissipate and no time at all for it to find its way in there.
Washing doesn't necessarily help that much because it is a brief hit of large water volume to the exterior and takes the path of least resistance, not that fine spray that happens in rain/snow/slush that can find its way into every nook and cranny - no matter how small.
In places that don't use salt that often (such as interior Alaska), rust on a Subaru that is partial cars running around still, but not many.
#35 of 38 Re: curious to hear updated comments from owners years later [xwesx]
by ateixeira
Jan 04, 2011 (12:56 pm)
Plus when it's snowing, Subarus are the only cars still driving around. The others are all stranded at home in the garage.
They're just not exposed to as much road salt.
#36 of 38 Re: curious to hear updated comments from owners years later [xwesx]
by xwesx
Jan 04, 2011 (5:22 pm)
In places that don't use salt that often (such as interior Alaska), rust on a Subaru that is partial cars running around still, but not many.
Whoa.... I am not sure what happened to that sentence, but there was probably another line worth of text there when I typed it!
I meant to say "...rust on a 20-year-old or less Subaru is pretty much non-existent. There are some older partial cars running around still, but not many." In other words, even in interior Alaska, old Subaru vehicles rust with vigor.
#37 of 38 04 Suburu Legacy - Worst Car
by sadsubowner1
Jul 20, 2011 (5:12 pm)
This is one of the worst vehicles I have owned. It needed a new short engine block at approximately 43,000 miles. I have had oil pumps replaced twice, 3 years apart. There have been oil leaks. Now, at 99,000 miles, I have the infamous white smoke blowing from my tailpipe, which may be indicative of the gasket issues many of you have discussed. Unfortunately, I lost my job & can't afford thousands to fix it or buy something new. I have heard about these cars lasting hundreds of thousands of miles but this one will be lucky if it lasts to 100,000. I can tell you when I can buy one though, it won't be a Suburu.
#38 of 38 99' Legacy SUS GT limited
by sus30
Dec 02, 2011 (6:47 am)
I'm the 2nd owner of one of the 30th anniversary SUS models made in 1999. I currently have 231,000miles with no problems other than the everyday in and outs. Only thing that needed a replacement so far was the alternator which is probably due to the high load my set up demands. I hope it can maintain its longevity at least until i can afford a newer Sub