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You are in the Subaru Legacy & Outback
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Subaru Outback, Honda Accord Crosstour, Car Comparisons, Hatchback, Wagon
#5 of 48 Re: Outback vs. Accord CrossTour [pcguys]
Sep 20, 2010 (5:56 am)
That sounds too good to be true. I just plugged in the #'s on the web and it shot back $674 w/ $1200 down.
You probably will have to pay bank fee and first month up front.
Is this a 2010 loaner or demo?
I too, have a Tribeca lease ending in November.
The crosstour is not even on my long list. Very inefficient use of space in the rear.
It will never be as secure as your tribeca. The Honda is FWD until the the wheels loose traction. with Subaru's 3.6 you ALWAYS have 2 wheels (one front/one back) moving the car.
But 399/mo - if you don't need AWD - is a great price.
But at 399/mo -
#6 of 48 Re: Outback vs. Accord CrossTour [css1]
Sep 20, 2010 (6:25 am)
Here's a link to the honda advertised special lease:
Take the $3,000 / 36 added to $249 = $332 plus tax.
The AWD model I was looking at was NOT a demo. The 2011's are not out yet, so everyone has 2010.
I got $399 &$410 at 2 different dealers, so it seems like that's the current honda lease deal.
BTW, what else have you looked at as a fellow Tribeca driver?
My requirements was 5 Stars / 5 Stars safety, which ruled out edge & nissan. I ruled out cx7 based on turbo lag and same terrible gas mileage.
I really have it down to only the outback 4 or 6 (not sure yet) or crosstour.
#7 of 48 Subaru or Honda
Sep 20, 2010 (9:11 am)
The lease is for the base FWD car. What is the sell price that their figuring the lease on?
I've looked at the 11' Jeep Grand Cherokee - less room than the outback !
also - the Audi Q5
I'm also interested in the new BMW x3 - but that wont be out until January.
These are the only brands that have real full time AWD systems.
The only reason I even look at other brands is because Subaru does not have a lot of creature comforts..........push button start, cooled seats, 10 way power passenger seats..etc.
However for cost of ownership, AWD, safety, and functionality Subaru can't be beat.
You know, I can turn my own key.
I'll stay with Subaru.
So should you.
#8 of 48 Re: Subaru or Honda [css1]
Sep 20, 2010 (9:24 am)
Yes, the deal on the honda site is for FWD, and yes, the AWD is more, but it's not like the FWD is over $400, and I'm getting quoted $400 for AWD.
What I've learned is dealer incentives can make a huge difference. One shouldn't exclude a car from consideration because the sticker price is more.
BTW, the AWD sticker is $34k.
I live in philly, and it's not like I do a ton of snow driving, so if the AWD is only on when it's needed, that doesn't sound soo terrible, especially if it saves a bit on gas.
#9 of 48 Re: Subaru or Honda [pcguys]
Sep 20, 2010 (10:36 am)
Mike, what is the rated fuel economy on the CrossTour? If you're wavering between the 4 and 6 cyl Subaru, the vastly superior fuel economy of the 4 should help sway your opinion!
#10 of 48 Re: Subaru or Honda [pcguys]
Sep 20, 2010 (10:37 am)
OH, don't forget, If you leased through Subaru finance ,Subaru pays your first payment on your new lease up to $500, and waves the current lease termination fee of , I think $350.
#11 of 48 Re: Subaru or Honda [xwesx]
Sep 20, 2010 (11:29 am)
Late to the party, can I join?
I was going to bring up fuel economy as well. Consumer Reports recently tested the V6 Accord and H6 Legacy, and surprise - the Subaru was more fuel efficient, even with the AWD handicap.
For me though, it's this: take a tape measure with you, and measure between the wheel wells. The CrossTour only give you 31" of cargo width. Even the compact Forester gives you 42". The Outback has a whopping 43" between them, a whole foot wider.
If the whole point is the great utility these things offer, why make major sacrifices in the cargo area? In fact while you're at it, measure an Accord sedan, I bet the cargo area is more useful.
You may also want to check out a CR-V/Forester, or Acura RD-X.
#12 of 48 Re: Subaru or Honda [ateixeira]
Sep 20, 2010 (11:45 am)
"If the whole point is the great utility these things offer, why make major sacrifices in the cargo area? In fact while you're at it, measure an Accord sedan, I bet the cargo area is more useful."
Let's not forget the sloped roof that the CrossTour has. That could limit some large items being put back there; and again, the rear visibility of the CrossTour is terrible.
Speaking of which... the rear wiper becomes pretty a moonroof wiper, as that (upper) rear window is almost horizontal. Plus the lower rear window (below) the spoiler, is useless in the rain, as there is no wiper for it.
The design aft the C-pillar is very poor, and not well thought out.
#13 of 48 Re: Subaru or Honda [rsholland]
Sep 20, 2010 (11:55 am)
That's just it - if the cargo area is not well shaped, you may as well save a ton of cash and get the sedan and save both money and fuel.
You can't get AWD, though.
BTW, another option is the Venza, if you like cushy isolation.
#14 of 48 Re: Subaru or Honda [rsholland]
Sep 20, 2010 (12:34 pm)
The Outback doesn't have a moonroof wiper! But the 2.5i does have a quadrozontal engine!
Hi guys, welcome to the party. how are you?
I may purchase rather than lease. That is why I'm considering other models. I will keep this for as long as it runs - which you know can be a long time.
Should I be waiting for 2012?