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Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 4:35 PM
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Subaru Outback, Honda Accord Crosstour, Car Comparisons, Hatchback, Wagon
#36 of 48 Re: Subaru Outback & Honda Crosstour [ateixeira]
by hoosiergrandad
Apr 16, 2011 (1:06 pm)
"I think the OB weighs a bunch less"
It does....about 700 pounds less than an AWD Crosstour .
No argument that if you need more cargo room, the Outback is better. I've found the CT to be very good in snow, but have not compared it to the the Outback. Maybe the Suby's noticeably better?
Per Edmunds, the Crosstour is 1.9 sec faster 0-60, 5.2 mph faster through the slalom. J D Power's IQ survey gives the CT a 5.0 vs. 2.5 for the Outback. Not saying this is conclusive, but worth paying SOME attention to.....Most of the IL staff admitted the CT's a good driving roadtripper, even if they didn't like the way it looks, and its looks do have fans. Personally ,I think it looks good on alternate days.
#37 of 48 Re: Subaru Outback & Honda Crosstour [hoosiergrandad]
by rsholland
Apr 16, 2011 (2:22 pm)
Per Edmunds, the Crosstour is 1.9 sec faster 0-60, 5.2 mph faster through the slalom. J D Power's IQ survey gives the CT a 5.0 vs. 2.5 for the Outback.
Sure the 6-cylinder 3.5L Crosstour will out-accelerate the 4-cylinder 2.5L Outback. You need to compare the Crosstour to the 6-cylinder 3.6L Outback.
Bob
#38 of 48 Re: Subaru Outback & Honda Crosstour [rsholland]
by hoosiergrandad
Apr 17, 2011 (3:58 pm)
Not trying to pick a fight....previous 2 posts were referring to the 2.5 version.
I'm sure the 3.6 has a lot more grunt, and costs considerably more.
The 2.5 that has been highlighted refers to a SCORE of 2.5 out of 5 in an initial quality survey. You can give it as much or as little credence as you want.......
#40 of 48 Re: Subaru Outback & Honda Crosstour [rsholland]
by hoosiergrandad
Apr 18, 2011 (5:30 am)
No argument.........it lists cheaper, but if your interested in both vehicles, you should check what they can actually be bought for. Each of them have features that would be deal makers or breakers, depending on what you need and want.
#41 of 48 Re: Here to help [laurencesubaru]
by ronn
Jan 25, 2013 (4:51 pm)
I would enjoy your opinion Laurence. Since you work for Subaru, I assume you would be more for the Subaru, but I love the sporty look of the CT, and after reading the reviews, people that have them love them...I don't know why people think they are ugly...i think it is one beautiful , different sporty looking car with alot of luxury...The OB is a great car, but it is a wagon...the CT sure isn't that.......it is more a sports car, so I find it hard to compare the two.
#42 of 48 Be Leary of Honda
by winter2
Jan 27, 2013 (10:56 am)
I own a 2013 Outback Premium. After three months, so far so good. I nearly purchased a Honda CRV but backed away after discovering that Honda is having issues with their automatic transmissions. The issue is that the automatic is out of the Accord and Honda uses this trans in several of their vehicles including the CRV and the Odessey minivan. The issue here is that Honda does not modify the trans to accomodate the extra weight of the minivan nor do they modify the trans to accomodate the extra strain placed on the trans by the AWD system found on the CRV or the Crosstour. This said, the trans fails early due to overheating. I got this info from one Honda dealership and a couple of trans shops. The other issue is that the Honda trans suffer from shiftitis as they continually hunt for the best gear.
The CVT in the 2013 is decent and smooth albeit a bit whiny. It is responsive and Subaru has pretty much done away with the "rubber band" sensation when you demand passing power.
#43 of 48 Re: Be Leary of Honda [winter2]
by ronn
Jan 27, 2013 (4:59 pm)
It seems that Crosstour fans will disagree......The people that own them say they are excellent, smooth quiet , and the V6 runs smooth as silk...perhaps you are talking about the 4 which would be too small. I personally love the looks of the crosstour...it is more sporty than an outback, even though they are great cars too....I just don't want a wagon look.....I like the sleek look of the hatchback
#44 of 48 Re: Be Leary of Honda [ronn]
by rsholland
Jan 28, 2013 (7:59 am)
Are you going for "looks" or "function?"
If it's looks, well, that's a matter of opinion. I'm not a fan of either the Crosstour or the Outback in terms of styling.
If it's function, the Outback wins hands down. The cargo area is better shaped for large bulky objects. The rear wheel wheel intrusion is less than in the Crosstour, and the rear visibility is far better in the Outback. The Crosstour is big on the outside, but small (relatively speaking) on the inside. Also, AWD is only available on the top-trim model, whereas every Ouctback has AWD. The Outback also has more ground clearance to better cope with deep snow and bad roads.
The Crosstour may (?) be the sportier ride, but Honda is having a very hard time selling them. Most people just don't like the car. The Outback is a far better seller, simply because it makes more sense.
Bob
#45 of 48 Re: Be Leary of Honda [rsholland]
by xwesx
Jan 28, 2013 (11:44 am)
I agree with you on every point made. Neither is particularly attractive, yet one is much more practical.