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#11 of 136 Re: internet quote for 2011 chevy cruze LS [dodgeman07]
Nov 06, 2010 (5:21 pm)
i hate to burst your bubble here or den't your enthusiasm for the cruze but here are the facts...the cruze is a over-priced underpowered ripoff..as per my recent post.i went to check out a 2011 chevy cruze LS recently at my local chevy dealer.msrp for the cruze LS that i looked at was $18,400.00 and included the connectivity package as the only option.no cruise control,manually operated side mirrors,no rear disk brakes and only 138 HP...i found 18,400.00 alot of money for a car that doesn't have these features when other cars at the same price level do..plain and simple...the mazda 3 i touring that i purchased after looking at the cruze does have these features for the same price...my internet quote for the 2011 chevy cruze that i described was for $17,800.00...way to much to be without the features that i wanted..on the other hand,the mazda 3 i touring i purchased was for $18,000.00 and has a ton more standard features and way better resale value....sorry,but in this economic climate people need to make smart decisions about car purchases and the cruze's price to standard features ratio just doesn't cut it for me......
#12 of 136 Re: internet quote for 2011 chevy cruze LS [steven39]
Nov 06, 2010 (10:46 pm)
If you're willing to buy last years model that helps - a lot. Comparing a 2010 Mazda3 that that does not have 10 Air Bags or the quietness or ride quality of the Cruze? Come on - justify the purchase to yourself - not us. The sticker price of a comparably equipped 2011 Mazda3 Touring is $900 higher than a 2011 Cruze 1LT. The Cruze LT has a base price of $18,175 and is a safer, quieter, smoother car with a better warranty. The Cruze is larger than the Mazda, the Mazda has inferior fuel economy numbers, offers no trip computer or OnStar or Satellite radio. The Cruze has a 6-sp automatic rated at 36mpg highway, the Mazda3 a 5-sp auto and is rated at 33mpg hwy.
The Cruze produces torque where it counts, at low RPM. Quoting 6000RPM HP figures doesn't mean much. Did you drive a Cruze LT? The Mazda3 has to wound out to 4500RPM to produce 135 lb-ft of torque. The Cruze produces 148 lb-ft at 1850RPM where you can use it.
If all you looked at was an 2011 LS model and compare it to a 2010 Mazda3i Touring model that was marked down 10% then yes - the Mazda3 might have been a good choice, if you are willing to accept a one year old car with less warranty, lower mileage, poorer refinement, fewer features and is less safe to save 2 grand over a newer Cruze LT.
#13 of 136 Re: internet quote for 2011 chevy cruze LS [dodgeman07]
Nov 07, 2010 (8:52 am)
again,the 2011 cruze is a underpowered overpriced ripoff.i'll say it again.i compared a 2011 chevy cruzeLS model that had auto,and the connectivity package as the only option.connectivity package included the bluetooth,and steering wheel mounted controls for both the bluetooth and audio...msrp was $18,400.00 and did not include cruise control,power side mirrors,or rear disk brakes..i found this msrp high when you consider that other cars that cost as much have these features as standard equipment.i walked across the street to the mazda dealer to compare the cruze with a 2011 mazda i touring model that had standard cruise control,power side mirrors,rear disk brakes,better resale value,and much better handling..the chevy cruze actually felt inferior to the mazda 3 and felt cheap by comparison..the quote that i got from the chevy dealer for the 2011 chevy cruze LS was for $17,800.00..way above the edmunds invoice price and the dealer would not budge from that...bottom line,i purchased the 2011 mazda 3 i touring for $17,990.00 plus TTT with all the standard features that i desrcibed here that the cruze didn't have..i cruised away from the cruze...lol
#14 of 136 ...it's your money...
Nov 07, 2010 (12:15 pm)
That's a good deal on a 2011 Mazda3 i Touring model that stickers for $20,200 as you've described. Comparing an up level Mazda to base Cruze doesn't make much sense to me but if you get $2200 knocked off the sticker price of a 2011, that's pretty good.
You got less warranty, refinement, worse mileage and safety and lower useable torque but hey, the Japanese appreciate your money.
#15 of 136 Re: ...it's your money... [dodgeman07]
Nov 07, 2010 (9:19 pm)
I'm sure that the Cruze rides well and is comfortable but it is much smaller than a Malibu and with current discounts (a dealer in the Texas Panhandle is taking $5000 off MSRP on a 2011 Malibu -this is a factory rebate plus dealer discounts) it might be a smart decision to at least consider a Malibu. The base model comes with most everything that people want. The LTs add larger wheels, alloys, bluetooth, suede upholstery etc. The highway mileage on the Malibu 4 is 33 so it should do 35-38 on the road. No GM car has decent resale so I'll be getting an 09 or 10 Malibu. A two year old Malibu only holds about 50% of its original list price. Once the excitement wears off on the Cruze and Ford comes out with a new Focus it will be a has been like the Cobalt and by summer (probably spring) will have $2k or more rebates. Ford I understand will have a new Fusion as well which will draw prospective Malibu buyers.
#16 of 136 Re: ...it's your money... [dispencer2]
Nov 08, 2010 (1:14 pm)
"...the Cruze rides well and is comfortable but it is much smaller than a Malibu and with current discounts (a dealer in the Texas Panhandle is taking $5000 off MSRP on a 2011 Malibu -this is a factory rebate plus dealer discounts) it might be a smart decision to at least consider a Malibu....The highway mileage on the Malibu 4 is 33 so it should do 35-38 on the road...Once the excitement wears off on the Cruze and Ford comes out with a new Focus it will be a has been like the Cobalt and by summer (probably spring) will have $2k or more rebates. Ford I understand will have a new Fusion as well which will draw prospective Malibu buyers."
You make some good points. The Malibu is a good buy with all the discounts being offered. A completely new 2012 Malibu is due out in the spring of 2011, so the heavy discounts should continue for a while. One mistake is thinking that the current Malibu is much larger than the Cruze. It is not. Interior volume is very close. The Malibu is a bigger car outside but not much bigger inside.
I also disagree that the Focus will make the Cruze an also ran. The Focus is aimed at a younger audience looking for a sporty small car. The Cruze is light years ahead of the Cobalt and aimed at the 30 to 50 year old crowd. And lastly, we're almost 2 years away from a new Fusion. It will be a 2013 model.
#17 of 136 Re: Buy the Mazda! [dodgeman07]
Nov 08, 2010 (8:03 pm)
By all means! Unless somebody sees the front end of the hideous thing, $2K off a new 2011 is a good deal. Bring some earplugs with you too. The road noise in the Mazda can lead to hearing loss after 2-3 hours on the highway.
Dodgeman07, unless Edmunds Insideline made a typo on their test results, 61.2DB/70mph is pretty quiet for the Mazda 3i touring as shown below. 67DB/70mph seems to be the average for this class. I can't wait to see the Cruze's test drive results to see if its better.
Db Idle: 35.2
Db Full Throttle: 66.3
Db 70 mph Cruise: 61.2
#18 of 136 Re: Buy the Mazda! [kagedude]
Nov 09, 2010 (10:29 am)
........and the Mazda3 is quieter the a Lexus 460L at 70mph too.....
Lexus LS460 Full Test
.....pretty reliable numbers.........
Drive them back-to-back. The Mazda3 is a noisy car. Edmunds dB numbers notwithstanding.
#19 of 136 Re: ...it's your money... [dodgeman07]
Nov 09, 2010 (11:36 am)
You make some good points too. The Focus always appealed to younger people. I rented a Malibu LT1 last spring in Seattle and drove it several hundred miles. It was very comfortable on the road and in town driving. It also sat four people comfortably. The back seat legroom on the Cruze is 35.4". On the Malibu it is 37.6" This is a significant difference if you are in the back seat. I haven't driven the Cruze but have sat in it and wouldn't want to be in the back seat for long. As a commuting car it would be fine but face it - it is a Cobalt replacement. Unfortunately it is priced too close to the Malibu for me to consider one. There is really no advantage I can see in it.
The next Malibu may be smaller than this one so I'll take the present model. All the GM cars seem to be getting smaller. Cadillac has lost me in the last few years. I have an 03 DeVille and don't like the CTS or STS. Both the DTS and the STS are on the way out. The XTS will be the size of the LaCrosse so why not buy a LaCrosse for thousands less? If I want a sports sedan I'll buy a Mercedes. What I want is a comfortable road car. The Malibu rides much better than the CTS and has much more front seat room. The CTS's huge console crowds legroom.. I also have an 09 Cobalt red coupe. It looks sporty but rides very well with its 15" tires and base suspension. It also gets 40 on the road.. I don't carry passengers (except for small grandchildren) in the back but I didn't buy it as a people hauler.
I think that the Malibu serves as an all around vehicle. My wife has a Traverse so the Cadillac will go when I get the Malibu.
#20 of 136 Re: ...it's your money... [dispencer2] Another Thought
Nov 09, 2010 (2:30 pm)
What I can't understand is what niche the Cruze is supposed to fill. It replaced the Cobalt which offered a coupe and an SS model with performance suspension as well as a bland 4 door sedan. The Cobalt also offered a high gas mileage model. The Cruze is larger than the Cobalt but is a 4 door with nice styling but nothing unique. Young people will buy a Focus or even a Fiesta which comes in wild colors and looks sporty. The next step up is the Malibu which is too close to the Cruze in price but is more of an all around family car. GM offers nothing sporty.since they did away with Pontiac. The Cruze should have offered a coupe or better still a convertible model,