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Nissan Rogue, Safe Driving, Auto Repair, Transmission, SUV
#87 of 237 Re: Rogue Transmission [gailintx]
May 10, 2012 (8:51 pm)
We just bought a Nissan rogue 2012 last month with 3400 miles on it. Im completely freaked out now to even drive it and were suppose to be going from Augusta ga area up to NC mountains this coming week in it. I havent had any issues yet but it sounds like its coming. Can you tell me anything else about the 2010 or should I just sit and be scared?
Before we bought it, it was a fleet car for a company and then the dealership bought it at an auction where we got it. The reports for it are clear thus far. It now has 5000 a little over miles on it. Any tips help TY :/
#88 of 237 Re: Rogue Transmission [nena_white]
May 11, 2012 (1:47 am)
Nena, Please ignore the hot air you read. Many like to demonstrate their personal insecurities by telling stories where no one can confront them face to face with truth. I bought my 2009 with 25,000 miles and now have 30,000. Beautiful!! Although a bit expensive, you could have the transmission fluid changed to give you a little extra confidence. It is true that a very small fraction of these CVT transmissions had early life issues, 99 % are just fine. I have come to believe most trouble comes from young drivers who like to race, but will not admit it when sharing their personal grief.
#89 of 237 Re: Rogue Transmission [captmiller]
May 11, 2012 (8:34 am)
I am one of those who suffered loss of acceleration in the middle of an intersection. Very scary, and thank god I had the green arrow and wasn't struck by oncoming traffic! However, I would agree with captmiller when he says not to worry. If you have a 2012, I'm sure they have worked out the bugs of the 2010 that I still drive. I had my CVT replaced and the problem has not returned since. Drive happy!
(By the way, I would disagree with the comment of assuming the people who had problems are young drivers who like to speed. I am not one of them, and the others who wrote in sounded like nice couples on long road trips like I was.)
#90 of 237 Re: Rogue Transmission [captmiller]
May 11, 2012 (6:10 pm)
I am a 40 year old mother o two small children who had a horribly dangerous experience on a road trip (see earlier post) I took my Rogue to two different dealerships, including one in the middle of our trip and both dealerships acknowledged that they were aware of issues but they could not replicate the problem so Nissan would do nothing. We are one car payment away from paying it off and will be trading it in as soon as we can. In the mean time, we refuse to take it on another long trip and after loving Nissan since I was in high school and owning a Nissan Altima and Maxima in the family, I refuse to buy another Nissan. I refuse to put my children in danger so Nissan just lost a lifetime customer.
#92 of 237 cvt tranny
May 28, 2012 (12:18 pm)
Madison, Wi Nissan dealer says they are booked for weeks replacing transmissions and to expect recall. my 08 rogue with 41k will not go from park to reverse.
#93 of 237 More info on the Mystery Failsafe Mode
Jun 04, 2012 (11:41 am)
So on a recent trip to Vegas, going up hill on a fairly cool night at 75 - 85 mph, the transmission drops into failsafe. This is the 2nd CVT in this vehicle to have problems. First one was replaced at approx 80,000 miles due to noise issues by a dealer in San Diego.
Being in the Business and having some technical experience with diags, I want to make sure I can see what is going on. I consulted two dealers and One says "It's an overheating problems, and Nissan is working on a fix" (This was from a service advisor) - I contact the Service Manager and he calls the Factory Rep, and I get the Blond Salute (The "I DUNNO SHRUG")(Yes, I'm Blond also)
I call a Buddy of Mine who is a service rep at a local dealer and he's at least willing to listen to me.
Here's what I see with a Snap On Scanner while Looking at Transmission Data.
(Quoting my email to my buddy the service rep)
So I drove the hell out of the Rogue this weekend with the scanner on it. The Datum I pointed out to you seems to be an issue.
When monitoring the ATF Temp readings, you can monitor both the Temp Sensor Voltage Reading and the ATF Temp in Degrees Fareheight. The Voltage readings Stay Between 2.0VDC and 0.6VDC which, according to the weighted values from mitchell Should be 68 Degrees and 230 degrees respectively. When I read temperature (Weighted Values) from Trans Data 2 the 2.0 volt reading is consistant with the 68 degree temp, but as the voltage drops the interpreted data shows that the trans is reading 275 Degrees at .6 volts. This will cause a failsafe mode if the TCM interprets this value as a condition that is above normal temp. When I read the temperature of the transmission with an infrared thermometer, it never gets close to the high temp reading that the interpretted datum shows.
As the transmission heats up, the whine in the transmission returns and gets louder as the temperature climbs.
I know that Nissan is aware of this heating issue and they are working on a "FIX".
I am also getting an intermittent burning smell when going uphill in warmer outside temperatures.
I know that this transmission, if it is heating up, will have excessive wear in the transmission drive belt due to the high temperatures.
I know that the whine is not an acceptable condition for the transmission to have.
Having the transmission drop into failsafe mode after 2+ hours of driving is unacceptable.
With this transmission dropping out of warranty in less than 500 miles, we need to do something about it ASAP.
(End of Email)
So, here some more "Sauce for the Goose" - If this is a problem with Data Interpretation they should have been able to fix it by reprogramming (Or cause it, because part of the first Technical Service Bulletin they performed, did a reprogramming of theTCM) - OR - If the problem is heat related and the problems don't show up untill the transmission get a few thousand miles on them, they can let it fall out of warranty with an average of a one time transmission replacement for problem units prior to the extended 120,000 mile transmission warranty expiration.
Either way, Nissan needs to step up. If you are getting a Whine, Burning Smell, Failsafe Mode (Normally with no check engine light in my case), a feeling of slipping under load - Be the Squeaky Wheel and demand an answer and a Transmission replacement as soon as it occurs. A whine is rubbing / slipping - that causes WEAR - that causes FRICTION /HEAT - THAT CAUSES FAILURE !
Good luck, my fellow Rogue Owners!
#94 of 237 Follow up to Dealer Visit
Jun 05, 2012 (3:39 pm)
So the Rogue went in to the Dealer Today. The Found that the transmission was overfilled with transmission fluid by 21 oz. (after I removed a Pint this weekend when I found it high also) They find a bulletin that states that there will be an Overheating and Failsafe issue if the Transmission is overfull. Apparently the Transmission has to be checked at 160 Degrees and the transmission fluid needs to be at the Hatched area of the Dipstick when checked at this temperature. They didn't find any sediment or residue in the fluid they removed.
Now, I'm waiting on Nissan Consumer Support to get involved as I started a case file with them. At least the service ticket will have a mileage less than warranty expiration and I have recourse if this thing bites the bullet.
#95 of 237 Re: Follow up to Dealer Visit [rustywer]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Jun 05, 2012 (3:56 pm)
I'm a bit surprised that it has a transmission dipstick at all. Those are getting to be a bit rare.
The next question is who (if anyone) serviced the transmission last? Was it overfilled at the dealer when it was replaced at 80k?
#96 of 237 Re: Follow up to Dealer Visit [steve_]
Jun 06, 2012 (12:39 pm)
The Factory Service Maintenance Interval is 60,000 Miles for Severe Service. The Transmission was last service by the Dealer who replaced the transmission. The Level has Been checked, but the Check procedure, as it was explained to me by the dealer, is not noted in any Mitchell or All Data service procedures that I could find.
I'm seeing alot of conflicting things with Tech Bulletins, and the like. I have now 8 calls into Consumer Affairs, and have yet to be in contact with their Rep. They Promised a contact within 24 Hours, I did get one dropped call when I attempted to answer their call.
I have a request into the supervisor now.