Last post on Feb 09, 2011 at 8:50 AM
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Audi A4, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, Certified Used (CPO), Convertible, Sedan, Wagon
#10 of 14 Re: 2.0T engine & oil [dino11]
Nov 16, 2010 (7:44 am)
Wow, you deem the car "crap" because it uses oil? You are also asking for a letter from Audi which states that the car uses a quart of oil every 1200 miles? Have you had a chance to read the owners manual? In it, it clearly states the owner will need to add oil every 1200 miles. So, if someone tells me their car is crap, I would think the car is either leaking oil, runs poorly or has a big cloud of smoke following them when there driving. Does your vehicle exhibit any of those issues?
Your wife is driving the safest car on the road as deemed by IIHS with a five star crash rating. Is that not important? Your also have the German build quality and handling of a fine sports car plus 211 HP out of a four cylinger engine and getting 31+ mpg to boot. If all it takes to satify you is a car that doesnt use oil, go drive a Kia
#11 of 14 2.0 T and oil consumption
Nov 16, 2010 (8:11 pm)
I stand by my comment= Audi A4 2.0 T is a piece of crap. As to your comment that the manual states that the engine will consume one quart of oil every 1200 miles, I can;t check this out at the moment but i will. Y recollect that the manual states that some oil consumption between oil changes is normal But I do not recall that Audi was as specific as you state. Further, if Audi was specific and stated what you say, than they would not have been reluctant to provide me with the statement I requested because it would just be repeating what they publicly stated in their manual. I have owned many cars with turbos, None consumed oil like the Audi. 1200 miles to a quart of oil is not the norm in 2009 when my car was built, And, what is your background? Do you hold 2 degrees in mechanical engineering - b oth BS and MS? Do you turn wrenches for a lving? If neither, than I believe you don;t know diddly about engine design. Your comparison to a Kia is not well-founded, Why not compare the Audi to the now- defunct Yugo. Truth be told for a 40,000 + buckos Audi is not a quality build. But what is also importnant is that the company will not stand behind its product, If you look at their worldwide sales, the U.S. market is not that important to Audi. Thjey unload many more cards in Asia. It's a prestige thing over there to own a European car. So, buyer/lessee beware. Pick an Audi if you like aggravation.
#12 of 14 Re: 2.0 T and oil consumption [dino11]
Feb 02, 2011 (8:08 am)
Anyone that defends a quart of oil in 1200 miles clearly knows nothing about automobiles! That figure is hardly acceptable in an old Buick much less a 2009 $40,000+ Audi a4. Have 8+ experience driving Audis and w/o the extended warranty-the car would have bankrupted me.
Bought a brand new audi a6 2.7t in 2000 and as the car aged-the dealer became harder to deal with in fixing this car. Eventually had to find an independent mechanic that knew Audi and accepted the extended warranty plan.
Virtually nobody knows how to work on these cars! Audi is a brand that should be leased--and at the end of the lease period it is turned in and that is it.
#13 of 14 Re: 2.0 T and oil consumption [fonefixer]
Feb 02, 2011 (10:30 am)
I think my original post was blasting Audi for the oil consumption so i presume you were speaking out about the folks that blasted me for speaking ill of Audi. I agree with your post 100%. Like you, I would NEVER buy an Audi. Lease and turn back. My wife loves the car and I will lease... only so long as the lease period and mileage is within bumper-to-bumper warranty coverage. Further, I would probably want the required periodic maintenance during the warranty period thrown in as well. However, if this maintenance is just oil changes, I might just pay for this if the charge of included maintenance far exceeded the cost of oil changes.
BTW, I was told that this "normal" oil consumption in Audi and VW
2.0 ltr engines is widespread. Audi- get rid of the 2.0 ltr turbo and up the displacement by at least a 1/2 liter to yield at least 250 hp with a normally-aspirated, well-engineered engine.
#14 of 14 Re: 2.0 T and oil consumption [dino11]
Feb 09, 2011 (8:50 am)
When I purchased a new Audi a6 2.7t in 2000, the 3 year warranty included in the purchase price of $42,500 featured a bumper to bumper warranty repair and scheduled oil changes every 8000 miles. Appears with the newest models that scheduled maintenance costs extra. In any case, without buying an OPTIONAL extended 3 yr-50,000 mile service contract--this car would have literally bankrupted me with all the incredibly expensive repairs that were needed to keep the car going.
If Audi is communicating to you that a quart of oil consumption every 1200 miles is standard on many of their newest engines--then they really have a serious problem with engineering of these cars!