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The real value of "old" cars?

143 messages,  Last post on Oct 05, 2010 at 6:53 PM

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#135 of 143 Re: What I ran into today.. [Mr_Shiftright] by hpmctorque

Sep 10, 2010 (12:37 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 10, 2010 10:19 am)
As long as we're talking Italian brands, what's your general opinion about Lancias? That brand never caught on in the U.S., but they were highly regarded in Italy. I'm referring to before Lancias became upscale and/or rebadged Fiats.
 
The Appias and Aprilias were well well engineered cars, with numerous innovations, but they go way back. I'm guessing that the Lancias of the '60s and '70s were more finicky and higher maintenance than their Alfa Romeo counterparts. I also think Lancia stressed luxury and comfort while Alfa stressed speed and sport. Your take?

#136 of 143 Re: What I ran into today.. [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Sep 10, 2010 (1:23 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 10, 2010 12:37 pm)
I think you have it all just about right. Lancia coupes and convertibles of that era (50s and 60s) can be quite valuable, depending on equipment and coachbuilder (Zagato). The little Appias and Aprilia sedans are beautifully built and appointed but not so valuable.
 
I would love to have an Appia but I don't want to pay the kind of prices people ask (and usually don't get anyway).
 
We in the USA usually only see the Fiat-era Lancias, which are not worth even talking about IMO.
 
Probably the last truly credible Lancia was the 73-76 Stratos.
 
The Lancia Aurelia B24 Spyder America is an interesting car you can google. You can pay more than 1/2 mil for one of those!
 
Most affordable "collectible" Lancia? The Fulvia coupe1965-1973. Nice little car.

#137 of 143 Comparing:63 Fiat Spider to 57 Plymouth Fury by euphonium

Sep 10, 2010 (2:22 pm)

Having driven both in the same manner, reasonable and prudently, the Fiat was more dependable by far. That Plymouth had a 301 V8 w Torqueflite (5 buttons) & from the get go I thought the noise was the speedo cable, but sadly found out it was the tranny chewing itself up. It was repaired twice before 25,000 when the engine blew. What a POS!

#138 of 143 Re: Comparing:63 Fiat Spider to 57 Plymouth Fury [euphonium] by isellhondas

Oct 05, 2010 (11:08 am)

Replying to: euphonium (Sep 10, 2010 2:22 pm)
OK guys, I need your opinion here.
 
Still kinda looking for a "fun" car that won't get a lot of use except on nice days.
 
A couple in our neighborhood has a NICE 1994 BMW 325i. It is near flawless.
 
All maintenance has been done either by the dealer or by a speciality shop that only works on BMW's. Not a scratch on it and it's always been garage and babied.
 
It's a 5 speed and everything works as it should.
 
Asking 3400.00.
 
The catch? 188,000 miles!!
 
Any BMW experts out there?

#139 of 143 Re: Comparing:63 Fiat Spider to 57 Plymouth Fury [isellhondas] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Oct 05, 2010 (11:40 am)

Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 05, 2010 11:08 am)
That's a boatload of money for that car, nice though it may be.
 
What makes you think it would be "fun" if you don't mind me askin'?
 
Is it a convertible, or has mods or something?
 
But ANYWAY, I'd make sure to check out the usual BMW suspects---radiator, water pump, thermostat, control arm bushings, scored rotors, electrical malfunctions, non-working AC.....
 
if it's just a sedan, I'd save that kind of $$$ for a convertible.

#140 of 143 Re: Comparing:63 Fiat Spider to 57 Plymouth Fury [Mr_Shiftright] by isellhondas

Oct 05, 2010 (12:58 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 05, 2010 11:40 am)
Oh, I remember my 1989 325i and althought it wasn't a convertable, it was "fun" throwing it around twisty roads.
 
BMW's can be quirky. I know that especially when it comes to the electricals.
 
Not a sedan, just a coupe.

#141 of 143 Re: Comparing:63 Fiat Spider to 57 Plymouth Fury [isellhondas] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Oct 05, 2010 (3:36 pm)

Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 05, 2010 12:58 pm)
Oh well a coupe might be more fun---depends on how dead the suspension is after all those miles. The car could end up throwing *you* around. Might be worth checking out. Be nice if you could get it for less $$$ though. Them's big miles and the car has zero chance of ever appreciating in value.

#142 of 143 Re: Comparing:63 Fiat Spider to 57 Plymouth Fury [Mr_Shiftright] by isellhondas

Oct 05, 2010 (6:11 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 05, 2010 3:36 pm)
Yep, I agree.
 
It has new struts and brakes and a bunch of other stuff.
 
Our son lives nearby so he stopped to see it.
 
He said it's a "20 footer" but in excellent shape. Sid the front spoiler has been cracked and taped up. The interior is the worst part of it. Leather worn with a six inch slit in the drivers side and a lot of wear on the passenger's side.
 
Sounds like a 2500.00 car to me on a good day.
 
Oh, it needs tires too so maybe closer to 2000.00. Don't ya think?

#143 of 143 Re: Comparing:63 Fiat Spider to 57 Plymouth Fury [isellhondas] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Oct 05, 2010 (6:53 pm)

Replying to: isellhondas (Oct 05, 2010 6:11 pm)
More like $1500 the way you describe it. We aren't expecting perfection at this price so we can forgive the spoiler, but re-covering the seats and 4 new shoes, that's chunk o' change.

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