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#211 of 309 Re: 2wd vs 4wd
Apr 02, 2012 (3:22 pm)
I'm seriously considering a 2012 crv 2 wd but waiting for the 2013 rav for comparison and I'm in the NW but live in the flat lands, don't drive in snow/ice and don't ski anymore. The reason I'm considering the 2 wd over 4 wd is: it's a few extra thousand bucks, a few extra hundred pounds, the vehicle already has a limited slip feature and it's more maintenance! Also, I'm guessing it's more than a 1 mpg difference too regardless of epa estimates (drivetrain drag, etc) I'm sold on most of the Honda and Toyota products and want the better visibility, safety and space, but I seek at least 30 mpg on the highway without trying much! The new camry SE and Prius are on my list too but aren't as safe or as large!
#212 of 309 Re: 2wd vs 4wd [drjjjj]
Apr 03, 2012 (6:31 am)
Just know that a 2WD CRV or Rav4 will be VERY difficult for you to resell
down the road when the time comes.
It's not often that we really "need" 4WD around here but I can tell you there have been a few times I was very glad to have it!
" More maintenance"? Yeah, you have to change the rear diff fluid every 30,000 miles. That's the extent of it.
30 MPG may be overally optimistic for either a CRV or a RAV4.
#213 of 309 Quick 2wd vs 4wd follow-up for mpg freaks
Apr 03, 2012 (9:47 am)
The 2wd is geared 5% taller/different than the 4 wd, it's about 200lbs lighter, if you go LX the tires are 5% thinner/taller maybe more complaint?, it's half an inch lower with some/a little driveline drag and the $2k less puts in the same price point as a camry se/etc I'm looking at. Perhaps the 4 wd has better resale, but maybe not-fewer lower priced better mpg 2wds in the long run! I'm in the NW and have yet to need any help with inclimate weather (in 10 years) and we drive rear wheel drive volvos (with limited slip) We do have the luxury of working aat home/calling in if it more a than an inch or two of snow however! Again, looking for car like drive, higher/commanding view/safety (3200lb min and extra height) , greater capacity and reliable/exc resale with 30 mpg on freeway 70 min threshold! Picky Engineer that will end up with Prius if gas stays above 4 bucks! China & India lining up for oil FYI! Drop the 50 state freeway limit to 60mph and most of us jump 5 mpg FYI!!
#214 of 309 Re: Quick 2wd vs 4wd follow-up for mpg freaks [drjjjj]
Apr 03, 2012 (10:03 am)
drop the limit to 60 and gas usage won't change, since no one will slow down anyway.
as to the 2 vs 4 WD question, I have been looking at this class of 'car" (CRV and Mazda CX5 notably), and will be happy to get a FWD for all the reasons you mention.
In our case, it would be replacing an Odyssey minivan, and we have never had a problem getting around in that in the winter. And we would not be taking the "truck" off road.
these are basically just cars anyway with a wagon body and sitting slightly higher. Pretty much the CRV is a Civic wagon, and for the majority of people the AWD is just a psychological factor.
I still think that if you didn't tell the majority of softroad buyers that it was only FWD, they could go for years without ever figuring it out.
#215 of 309 Re: Quick 2wd vs 4wd follow-up for mpg freaks [drjjjj]
Apr 03, 2012 (11:24 am)
It sounds like you've already made up your mind on a 2WD.
Nothing "wrong" with them and if you feel you have no need for 4WD than go for it. Don't be surprised if you have a bit of trouble finding one since the local stores don't order very many.
We are on our 3rd one and they have been wonderful. Never a repair!
#216 of 309 Re: Quick 2wd vs 4wd follow-up for mpg freaks [stickguy]
Apr 03, 2012 (11:28 am)
I'm not sure where the "Civic Wagon" feelings come from but I've heard that before and it isn't so. The last Civic Wagon was sold in 1991 for one thing.
As far as having 4WD, ours never get offroad but there have been a few times when it really made the difference. With a set of Blizzzaks (ours dont have these) the 4WD CRV's will go almost anywhere!
Like the saying go's...
" It is better to have 4WD and not need it than to need it and not have it"
#217 of 309 Re: Quick 2wd vs 4wd follow-up for mpg freaks [drjjjj]
Apr 03, 2012 (8:33 pm)
drjjj: I've got a 2010 CRV LX 2WD, and, drive it for business. I've put 60K miles on it, mostly business trips running interstates at 70. I remain dissapointed with her fuel economy, which typically stays in the 24 - 27 Mpg range on my business travels. My last business driver, a Saturn Aura with the 229 HP 3.5 Liter V6 easilly got 30 MPG on my trips. The 4 Chrysler midsizers I owned before the Saturn, all with V6 power, did that well also. I was willing to put up with the CRV's modest performance - expecting it to deliver excellent fuel economy - but mine doesn't.
#218 of 309 Re: Quick 2wd vs 4wd follow-up for mpg freaks [oldbearcat]
Apr 04, 2012 (4:20 am)
I just got my 2012 CRV LX AWD. I got 34 mpg for couple of days commute drive (18 mile one way with mostly highway at average 70) from the trip computer. This is better than my 2002 Camry.
#219 of 309 Re: Quick 2wd vs 4wd follow-up for mpg freaks [isellhondas]
Apr 04, 2012 (5:35 am)
the CRV is for all intents and purposes the wagon model in the civic lineup. they just "macho" it up and pretend it is a truck.
and I don't really agree about AWD, sinc eyou pay for it up front, and every mile you drive. might as well get a bigger car (might need the room some day!) and of course a V8, because it is better to have 200 extra HP on the off chance you might need ti, right?
#220 of 309 Re: Quick 2wd vs 4wd follow-up for mpg freaks [stickguy]
Apr 04, 2012 (8:42 am)
Sorry, but the CRV has NOTHING to do with the Civic at all.
as far as the 4WD, 99.9% of the time I have no use for it but we do get snow here once in awhile and it does a great job. As a hiker I took it to a trailhead a couple of years ago and foolishly got into some deep mud while making a u-turn. I was able to get out of that mess.
So, buy a 2WD and be happy!
As far as 200 HP, I can't recall one time in my driving career when I've needed a bunch of extra power for any reason.
A CRV is what it is and certainly won't please everyone. We have two of them sitting in our garage and couln't he happier with them!