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#1 of 47 2011 Toyota Sienna SE Purchase Advice Needed
Jun 26, 2010 (1:19 pm)
I'm currently shopping for our first Toyota. Were getting ready to replace our 15 year old Dodge Grand Caravan.
Were negotiating for a 2011 Sienna SE in South Pacific Pearl with the following options:
TO - Towing
SP - Preferred Package
WT - Window Tint
MR - Moon Roof
MSRP - 34,219.00
Invoice - 30,824.00
Any idea what a fair price would be in the Austin, TX area?
I'm getting quotes back in the 32-33K range.
Thanks in advance for any input.
#2 of 47 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna SE Purchase Advice Needed [gwrace1]
Jun 28, 2010 (6:18 pm)
I'm in the northeast but I'll tell you we got ours (same color) with the same options plus the mats which are another 320 or so for 31,200 and they didn't push back at ALL when I said that's what I was paying. I'm used to the sales manager coming out and saying his kids have to eat and can i give him another 200 and there was none of that. There was a guy on another forum talking about several hundred under invoice, I thought he was joking but when we picked ours up my wife was asking the sales guy how business was and he mentioned doing cars as much as 700 under this month. It sounds like the incentives pulled all of their sales forward and now they are in a drought.
I say just go in at invoice. Say dealer X down the street has the black one they quoted me 31,200, I want it for 30,900 or whatever... If they balk just say OK well I'm going back to dealer X and walk outside and fumble with your keys in the parking lot - they'll come running out saying OK my manager said if it's today and your serious we can do 30,900.
#3 of 47 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna SE Purchase Advice Needed [mattster1]
Jun 28, 2010 (6:55 pm)
Thank you for the reply. How do you like your SE so far? I have yet to see the Pacific Pearl color and we've been to three dealers. Would love to see some photos of your new van if you have some. I'm trying to gauge just how blue this color really is. The various pictures on the internet have so many different shades.
Thank for the asistance.
#4 of 47 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna SE Purchase Advice Needed [gwrace1]
Jun 29, 2010 (7:26 pm)
I have pics but need to download them, the blue is beautiful I really like it. Let me see what I can do.
In terms of the van here is what I can tell you.
The good: It's a really nice vehicle, the brakes are the most amazing part. When I test drove the vehicle I did not notice just how great the brakes really are. Other than that they balanced the ride and handling well. I have not lit into it but it seems to have decent power and even with only 850 miles on it I'm getting 23.2 MPG (both on the dash meter and calculated actual) which is better than I expected. I find the seats are very comfortable, it's quiet, it's huge, and I think for a minivan it looks decent - I actually had a few compliments. I love the power doors and the sliding rear seats and am pleased with the interior overall. Our 2 year old LOVES the big side windows and wants them down all of the time.
The "it is what it is": I find the handing to be fairly good but it's still a minivan. I don't think it's as sporty as all of the reviews and magazines let on. Don't get me wrong it's way better than the XLE/Limited which drive like 80's caddys and I could not deal with those; but you throw the SE aggressively into a turn or an onramp and it's not like a FX/MDX/X5 by any stretch of the imagination and I don't really find it to be better than an Odyssey. It's a nice driving van that you can transition from a sport-like car into without completely hating it. The mags all wrote it up like it was the BMW of minivans, the pre-production version may have been but I'll tell you first hand that the production version is no BMW it's merely tolerable. The steering is OK for EPS, I'm impressed with how well it tracks and the feel is decent but I wouldn't call it lively. It's still EPS and EPS isn't quite there yet in terms of road feel.
The bad: the stereo. It sounds ok on CD or radio but I have a number of complaints considering it's the upgrade stereo in the SE. It's just not what you would expect in a 34k vehicle, it's not a 6 disc, the XM sounds terrible and you can't change categories w/o reaching across the vehicle, and the FM tuner is sub-par at best (far worse than my 05 Corolla XRS and 07 SE Camry) and I have a lot of trouble here picking up radio stations that came in fine in my other Toyotas. I also really wish I had the overhead dvd in it. I looked at the Toyota seat mount accessory DVD for the SE and they are total garbage and they are trying to get 2k for them which is ridiculous.
This might sound funny but the only other real disapointment is the rear kid mirror. It's too small and with the black interior I can't really see anything in it other than the fact that the kids are still actually in the van.
Also I'm still not sure how well I'll do without heated seats in the winter.
Hope this helps.
#5 of 47 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna SE Purchase Advice Needed [gwrace1]
Jun 29, 2010 (7:34 pm)
Hey I have a pic but it looks like it's not easy to post. Shoot me your email.
#6 of 47 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna SE Purchase Advice Needed [mattster1]
Jun 30, 2010 (1:50 pm)
I'm not really sure how to get you my email address without publishing it to the world. Is there a PM option on Edmunds?
Thanks for the very candid review of the van. Much appreciated.
I'm currently battling with Gulf States Toyota distributors over what options they feel I should or should not get. I'll probably go out of state for the purchase.
#7 of 47 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna SE Purchase Advice Needed [mattster1]
Jul 01, 2010 (5:46 am)
Just create a carspace account right here on Edmunds. When you upload pictures they even give you the code to make pics embedded.
#9 of 47 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna SE Purchase Advice Needed [mattster1]
Jul 01, 2010 (6:36 pm)
Awesome looking van. Thanks so much for posting the picture and the great review.
#10 of 47 Re: 2011 Toyota Sienna SE Purchase Advice Needed [mattster1]
Jul 02, 2010 (6:49 am)
How is yours optioned? We can only get "regional Optioned" cars in So Cal that all have that damned Moonroof - $850 I don't want to spend to lower the roof 2 inches. And is that the Teal color? Thanks