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#59 of 258 changed my mind... :(
by tacalin
Oct 06, 2010 (10:49 pm)
at the right moment, I think.
I leased a VW Rabbit 2007 and as my lease will end in january, I wanted to see what option the dealer will offer me. I was looking mostly for a TDI one. Jetta 2011 was up at the moment (july) and at least in the pictures looked nice.
This monday, I was at the dealer to see the new Jetta and I was really disapointed. First of all, the armrest is cheap (no more leather on) and is not sliding, nor vertically adjusted. The vents in the back of the armrest are not there anymore, the finish of the clothing is cheap too (on the door for example), the plastic on the dash is harder and looks cheaper too. So much for the aspect.
For the "inside" things, I really am disapointed to see the return of the torsion bar in suspension and also the return of the hydraulic steering assist instead of the electrical one.
I asked the dealer if for the high line trim I could have some more quality and he told me that there is nothing that he can offer me and that this is the way VW decided to cut the production cost. In my opinion, this is not a good direction for VW and I think that the Jetta 2011 will be a big fiasco for VW.
Fortunately, I was able to find a last model of a comfort line Wagon 2010 full equipped (in Canada is named Golf Wagon). For me, it's surely a good choice, since the interior and the functionality are similar to my Rabbit.
#60 of 258 Re: changed my mind... :( [tacalin]
by bvdj84
Oct 07, 2010 (8:05 am)
They should have used GM as an example of what not to do. More is not always better. Now is not the time to test out a new approach. Stick with what you know VW! You simply can't cut costs down on a car that people look for quality on and will pay the money for! People will notice! This is what sets VW apart from others, that you can get a reasonable priced car that feels expensive! I might have my mom keep her leased 08 Jetta!!
I will test drive one! But, it will be an SEL.
#61 of 258 Re: changed my mind... :( [bvdj84]
by chuck1
Oct 07, 2010 (5:27 pm)
There is only one small rubber gasket around the door windows. My '07 Accord has at least two very large rubber gaskets.
I would insist in driving a demo car on the freeway to determine noise levels....
#62 of 258 Re: changed my mind... :( [tacalin]
by tacalin
Oct 07, 2010 (8:36 pm)
Just wanted to add that I commute around 45 miles and around 1h30m / day and the interior & comfort of a car seem to become so important when you spend as much time in your car
Oct 12, 2010 (8:43 am)
My daughter bought a 2011 Jetta S. I have a 2006 TDI. The difference between the two is alarming. The new one screams "cheap." It was good for her since it was affordable but for those of us used to a quality car - forget it. I doubt that my next car will be a VW unless they realize they have regressed and correct their error.
#65 of 258 Re: It's cheap [driverbern]
by chuck1
Oct 12, 2010 (3:17 pm)
Your daughter is exactly the target market for the new Jetta. Those who want safe, reliable (hopefully) and very competitive priced transportation.
Does your daughter care about independent rear suspension, or how many horsepower the motor makes? Probably not.
They didn't make it for those who care about performance. Hopefully, enough people who want "basic" transportation will buy it.
Because, let's face it. There were not that many of us who bought the performance, German craftsmanship, etc. aspects of the brand to keep them in business in North America. AND THAT'S REALITY!
So the best case is they sell MANY JETTAS and still make a few limited production performance models for the rest of us.
#66 of 258 Re: It's cheap [chuck1]
by bvdj84
Oct 13, 2010 (4:13 am)
Well, I wouldn't go that far against the new model. lol. But, It does drive nice and better than most in the class. I did have a chance to drive an SEL. I really like it. But, there were a few areas that I could tell were sacrificed. Overall quality is just a notch below then before. But, still sharp looking.
It felt and bit bigger and perhaps a bit agile. Would I still lease one? Yeah, I would. The price is good, for what you get. Though, I still do not agree with VW's method for getting more people to drive them. Bad move.
Sorta sad. That is what drove people to VW, that appeal, quality and apeal. Something different.
I think people will warm up to it eventually, most will criticize a new model hard. But, with reason. It is a bit out of VW territory. A bit less VW. More....Utility like.
#67 of 258 Re: It's cheap [driverbern]
by jeffyscott
Oct 13, 2010 (6:53 am)
Why did your daughter choose the Jetta over, say, a Civic, Corolla, Focus, Elantra, Mazda3, Lancer, etc.?
As was indicated by another poster: "Hopefully, enough people who want "basic" transportation will buy it."
So I am wondering why one would choose the new VW over the alternatives.
#68 of 258 Re: It's cheap [jeffyscott]
by fho2008
Oct 13, 2010 (8:24 am)
Price.....cant miss the "$15,995" in the ads. The rest is up to the dealer.