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#784 of 896 Re: Choices other than the Cruze [drvette] by gpara

Dec 16, 2011 (6:58 am)

Replying to: drvette (Dec 15, 2011 11:38 pm)
As to Cruze Quality, I purchased a 2011 cruze eco stick last May, I have run my own automotive specialty shop for 35 years and I am a member of thew SAE. The Cruze was the first car I have really been excited about in 20 years.
It truly is a "World" class car,. I researched the car for months and even gave a presentation at a Chevy dealer on the airo and mechanical package they have. I am super critical of design and performance with economy in mind. Everything was in order tat I saw and was duely impressed with it. After driving these months, only 2 issues come to mind, neither quality problems.
First gear is way too low, you only get 1/2 thru an intersection and have to shit and the gas tank fill is terrible, always shuts off at 9 gallons and you have to play with it another 10 minutes to get the stated used fuel amount off the DIC. I have yet to completely fill the tank to check the accuracy of the calculated value. Otherwise the car has been flawless. There is no way I would have spent that type of money for a car that I did not trust or did not have a good reputation already, remember sold off shore for some time before coming to the us. Many miles in testing and developement. I would put my Cruze up against any manufacturer as to quality, design and economy. I was impressed with the mileage and intended a 50mpg target for most of my trips, rural area, highway and it has done that so far and I drive 60 mph when I can. Most of the complaints I see are individuals who would nitpick anything they can, unrealistic expectation, no real problems that I have seen yet.
I think the question has been answered, if you l the way it looks and drives buy the car and don't worry about past designs, this in NOT a Cavalier or Cobalt!!!!!

#785 of 896 Re: Choices other than the Cruze [drvette] by backy

Dec 16, 2011 (8:45 am)

Replying to: drvette (Dec 15, 2011 11:38 pm)
Note to potential buyers of Korean vehicles, they are pretty, but be aware, these are NOT the quality of American or Japanese vehicles.
 
This is really off topic for a discussion focused on the Cruze. But since you brought it up... what is the factual basis for your assertion? And have you owned any Korean cars, especially within the last 10 years or so, to allow you to make a good comparison of the quality of Korean vehicles compared to American and Japanese vehicles?
 
If your opinion is based on the Chevy Aveo, a 10-year old design that was designed for one purpose, low price, that is not a good basis for a general comparison on relative quality.

#786 of 896 Re: Choices other than the Cruze [ab348] by fushigi

Dec 16, 2011 (9:14 am)

Replying to: ab348 (Dec 16, 2011 5:42 am)
I've not witnessed any issues with Hyundai gas tanks and I don't recall reading of any here on the forum (though I could have missed the posts). Which models were affected? I ask as my wife had an '01 Elantra and my sister still owns an '04 Sonata. We both live in the snow belt so our vehicles are exposed to road salt.
 
I am familiar with the Sonata subframe rust issue, but that was fixed free of charge. There was also a front strut assembly rust issue on the Elantra which was fixed free as part of a recall campaign.
 
So yes, I freely admit that Hyundai has had probably more than their fair share of rust issues since 2000, but the ones I have heard of have been handled free of charge.
 
In an attempt to make this about the Cruze, when my wife was looking for a car to replace the '01 Elantra, the Cruze was on her short list. We liked how quiet it was. Power from the 1.4T was good. Ride was overly firm, though, and sitting in the passenger seat I couldn't get comfortable due to the position of the door arm rest. It was too high to comfortably rest my arm. The Cruze wound up as her second choice due to a few factors, which I've detailed elsewhere in the forums.

#787 of 896 Mazda3s by sandman_6472

Dec 16, 2011 (9:45 am)

I'd put our car up against any others made today...this car has been the most reliable car we've ever owned...period! And with 100k coming within days, have no complaints about it. Excellent car which the wife might buy again. It'll come down to the Mazda3 and the Verano, but quality/reliability wise, I think Mazda will be the winner hands down. GM has done an admiral job with the Verano/Cruze but I still think the Mazda3 is the better car after owning one for over 6 years now.
 
The Sandman

#788 of 896 Re: Choices other than the Cruze [gpara] by drvette

Dec 16, 2011 (9:53 am)

Replying to: gpara (Dec 16, 2011 6:58 am)
gpara
Your posting was quite informative and compelling given your experience and occupation.
 
Eveyone needs to know the Cruze with the 1.4L Turbo engine does NOT have a timing belt that may break and destroy a $3-4000.00 engine like so many others ..
 
Also the engine block is Cast Iron, this is for a reason.
 
The Turbo is rather inexpensive to replace, earlier forced induction systems like the Ford Turbo T-bird of some 20+ years ago cost about $2500.00
 
The Cruze turbo is a mere $650 RETAIL and 2.0 hrs to R&R, btw it has a "core" charge so obviously it's an easy rebuild..
 
My attempt to purchase a Cruze has NOT been successful as of yet.
 
Dealership claims of "limited" availability yielded this:
 
www.cars.com
Your Search Returned the Following
1313 New 2012 Chevrolet Cruze models within 150 miles of your ZIP, 3016*

#789 of 896 Re: Mazda3s [sandman_6472] by shipo

Dec 16, 2011 (10:09 am)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Dec 16, 2011 9:45 am)
The main item which moved the Cruze ECO up above the new SkyActiv Mazda3 on our short list was the exteme limitations Mazda puts on options for those of us who wish to stir our own gears. Prior to our discovery of how Mazda limits the options, the Mazda3 was our top choice for our new car; after said discovery, the Mazda3 was removed from the list entirely and every other car ratched up accordingly.

#790 of 896 Re: Choices other than the Cruze [backy] by drvette

Dec 16, 2011 (10:15 am)

Replying to: backy (Dec 16, 2011 8:45 am)
backy;
Quote" what is the factual basis for your assertion? And have you owned any Korean cars, especially within the last 10 years or so, to allow you to make a good comparison of the quality of Korean vehicles compared to American and Japanese vehicles? "
 
Personally, no I have not but have several friends who own Mom & Pop repair shops and one pal with a 10~yr old Kia.
 
From my wrench pals, the Koreans have yet to match the Americans much less the Japanese in overall mechanical quality.
 
My pal who bought a Kia with a 100k "Bumper to Bumper" 7 yr warranty, well this may have been offered by the dealership in Atlanta, however it was NOT honored as it was explained to him.
[*note* read the fine print]
 
A stab at Japanese cars, while generally durable, WHEN they DO break, the parts costs are usually 2-4x more than similar American parts.
 
To be fair, compare parts for a Benz or BMW,, OUCH, the words Break My Wallet [BMW] are now painfully clear.
 
On the BBC show, Top Gear, the coil pack went out on a 12cyl Benz 2-door coupe, I forget the exact price but it seems like some 1200q or $1800~
 
I hope no one thinks I have issues with ANY country !
I'd buy a Chinese or Russian vehicle, given the right circumstances.
 
The One and Only issue I have with the Koreans is their treatment of canines. I do NOT object to the eating of dogs, I do however have a problem with the torture prior to slaughter.
For centuries the method has been to induce torture to the animal, this causes large amounts of Adrenaline to be produced, which makes the meat more appealing to a certain culture group in Korea.
 
www.thepetitionsite.com › Animal Abuse › Farm Animals › Pets
 
You will find several websites that claim this to be an urban myth, much like you will find many sites claiming the dispersant used in the Gulf of Mexico to be as harmless as dish-washing liquid.

#791 of 896 Re: hypermiled stickshift LS, 50.6 mpg ! [m6user] by drvette

Dec 16, 2011 (10:23 am)

Replying to: m6user (Dec 02, 2011 7:35 pm)
M6user'
Quote
"Nothing above was indicated to be in the past. You're the one that said "if I drive" which indicates to me present tense"
 
Sorry, you are correct, my continued and constant desecration of the English language continues to confuse those poor folks who attempt to decypher..
 
My apologies.

#792 of 896 Re: Choices other than the Cruze [drvette] by backy

Dec 16, 2011 (1:06 pm)

Replying to: drvette (Dec 16, 2011 10:15 am)
My pal who bought a Kia with a 100k "Bumper to Bumper" 7 yr warranty, well this may have been offered by the dealership in Atlanta, however it was NOT honored as it was explained to him.
 
It was not a manufacturer warranty. Kia has never offered a 7-year bumper to bumper warranty. I don't think much of warranties backed only by a dealer. I don't see what a dealer-offered warranty has to do with the subject of relative vehicle quality.
 
I also don't see how Korean dietary preferences have ANYTHING to do with a discussion of relative vehicle quality.
 
I hope no one thinks I have issues with ANY country !
 
I think you have made it clear that you have an issue with at least one country... which might be coloring your opinion of their cars?
 
I've owned or leased over 20 vehicles--American, Japanese, and Korean--including 3 Korean vehicles over the past 11 years. I'd put those Korean cars up against anything from America or Japan in the same price class over that time. And the quality has improved markedly in the past 10 years... really no comparison from what is available now vs. 10 years ago, or even 5 years ago.
 
Back to the Cruze... there's many things I like about it, including its quietness, well-trimmed interior, and great FE with the Eco. But I've decided to take it off my top-tier list for my next car after driving it in two one-week rentals recently. First, I found the steering more disconnected than I'd like. (These were LTs, btw.) Second, the rear seat is cramped for the size of the car--really no more usable leg room than in some smaller cars. Third, to get the Eco that I'd prefer will run around $19k. And I think there's some very good alternatives I like better for less money. If the Eco 6MT comes down in price before I am ready to buy, I might re-consider, but it would have to beat out the likes of the Mazda3 Skyactiv, Focus SE, Impreza, Elantra GLS, and Accent SE. And all of those but the Elantra are available as a hatch, which I prefer--another strike on the Cruze for me.

#793 of 896 Re: Mazda3s [shipo] by sandman_6472

Dec 16, 2011 (1:30 pm)

Replying to: shipo (Dec 16, 2011 10:09 am)
I liked the SkyActiv auto I drove but the wife has since let me know that she wants at least the 2.3 liter on her next ride so that leaves the Mazda3s and the new Verano on her short list. I knocked the Focus off just because besides the leather, it's a Ford. The Elantra isn't entirely off the list, I do want her to drive one just to get her reaction. And even though she likes the 3 Series, she won't spend that kind of cash on any car.
 
The Sandman

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