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Apr 09, 2011 (10:56 am)
Thanks Tim 156, you have done your homework regarding the tranny for the new Focus. I too am having the gurgle sound in the cooling system. I would like to trade the car in but because its a 2010 Fusion do you think I can just get what I owe? I am going to try a different Ford dealer and see if they hand me the same bull. I feel that Ford just doesn't care enough because they have sold so many Fusions. How many times do we have to take car back to claim it's a lemon?
#13 of 33 Re: Babbs3 [babbs3]
Apr 10, 2011 (8:30 am)
I don't know what you owe, but at the 4 dealerships I shopped for my Focus, I was offered between $16000 and $16500 and I ended up settling for $16250 at a dealership that originally offered $16000. That's less than the $17000 I originally wanted in trade. No one would come close to that because of "market fluctuations". I need my Fusion until my ordered Focus arrives and the timing needs to be perfect if I sold it on my own, so I decided to take less and trade-in. I purchased mine in May 2009 and owe a little more than $14000 so I'll have around $2250 for a down payment. Plus, if my car comes in before 6/5 I get an additional $750 "Private Cash" discount and hopefully the $500 bonus cash for financing through Ford Credit will be extended beyond 5/5. That means I'll get my 2012 Focus SEL hatchback with the 303A package for $21915 or $2710 below MSRP.
I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I believe Ford is hoping the 6 speed transmissions last until they are out of manufacturers warranty. Ford engineers have stated the air in the cooling system will not cause any damage and is only a nuisance. The Fusion is going to be re-designed in 2013 so I'm sure there are no plans to change or retrofit the heater core or the cooling system on existing or new Fusions.
Apr 11, 2011 (12:09 pm)
Good info again Tim 156. I agree with you that Ford will just keep ignoring us and hope the warranty becomes moot. I feel the reason they are doing this is two fold : one is that they will never admit this mistake and also that they have sold so many Fusions that it really doesn't matter to them cause they have their money. If I can get 16000 for my Fusion I will jump on it. I only have 5000 miles on it (retired and need the miles on my feet more). Here in Mich. the dealers laugh you off the lot when you want to trade in anything. The amount I owe is under the 16000 amount cause I got the Ford z plan and money down.
#15 of 33 New visit to dealer for Trans.
Apr 12, 2011 (3:10 pm)
This morning I went to a 2nd Ford dealer to complain about the tranny problems and the 'gurgle the car makes. The dealer was very polite (unlike one I bought the Fusion from) but they said there was probably a leak in the seal..well the trans. was 2 qts low on fluid but not from a leak. This had to have happened when the calibration trans. recall was done by 1st rude dealer. Someone then took it for a test drive and said "its perfect". Hah shifting hard and flaring tach. sure doesn't seem good to me. They said there was no sounds coming from cooling system so I must watch it myself! Question is now should I worry that driving for 10 months with 2 qts low that it may have caused some other damage? I think the trans. hold 9 qts.
#16 of 33 Re: New visit to dealer for Trans. [babbs3]
Apr 12, 2011 (4:23 pm)
Sounds like you've found a new dealership to have your car serviced. I guess you have to determine by driving the car if any damage was done. Listen, smell and feel for any irregularities with the tranny. Check the fluid regularly, if it turns a dark red or brown, or begins to smell burnt, that's the first sign of a problem. The sloshing sound tends to be more noticeable when the ambient temps are below freezing. You may not hear it until next fall when temps start to drop.
#17 of 33 Re: New visit to dealer for Trans. [babbs3]
Apr 17, 2011 (4:21 pm)
I have a 2010 Mercury Milan and when cold, in the twenties or colder, the trans does shift hard/firmly until it warms up. I asked my local dealer about this and they informed me that the trans fluid is not a synthetic but a petroleum based item.
When my Milan reaches 15,000 miles, I am going to dump the Ford fluid and replace it with a synthetic. Amsoil has one that exceeds Ford requirements for that trans.
I have switched over to 100% synthetics in my Chrysler products and the difference is quite noticeable in the form of smoother, quicker shifts at all temps.
#18 of 33 Re: Transmission re programming [hackattack5]
Jun 25, 2011 (5:28 am)
Took My 2010 Fusion to a different Ford dealer and they performed the latest Service Bullintin on the transmission (Re-program and set pressure). I can say it does shift flawless now but we have only had it back one day. I will give an update soon
#19 of 33 Re: Transmission re programming [hackattack5]
Jul 06, 2011 (5:43 pm)
Yep Its been a couple weeks and its shifting like it should. The key this time is I took it to a different Ford dealer and told them if they could fix it then they get all my business. They performed the same service bulletin as my normal ford dealer did twice before but this time it worked
#20 of 33 Re: Transmission re programming [hackattack5]
Aug 29, 2011 (2:09 pm)
hackattacj5, can you tell me the STB for this problem? I just got a 2010 sel and I am experiencing the same issue. The dealer could not copy the issue when they drove it, but I am still not happy with this purchase. Your help is appreciated
#21 of 33 Lemon case
Nov 26, 2011 (9:13 pm)
Friends, i'm new to this forum and wanted some guidance as to how to proceed with the lemon for the transmission on my Fusion 2010. I filed a lemon case against Ford back in July 2011 requesting a repurchase for the vehicle and now Ford has come back to me with a $4000 offer, which i rejected. Now my lawyer has sent me the scheduling orderfo the court proceedings and i'm looking to settle this case outside of court if possible and i'm sure Ford wants the same.
Now my questions is can i convince Ford that problem really exists by have a 3 party transimission evaluation since the dealership always diagnosis the problem as" No trouble Found" and yet they replaced a bunch of hardware on my transmission already. Please give you opinions and i would highly appreciate if anyone can share his/her experience in going thorugh a lemon lawsuit with Ford. Thanks.