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#10 of 29 Re: 2003 Forester head gasket [cabriggs]
by xwesx
Jun 04, 2010 (11:55 am)
No; that sounds like a great price.
#11 of 29 Re: 2003 Forester head gasket [xwesx]
by ateixeira
Jun 08, 2010 (10:40 am)
I agree.
I ended up spending a bundle on my Miata to get the water pump and timing belt done. Ended up doing the T-stat as well, but in all I spent $1100 just on that.
This is a great "while you're at it" value.
#12 of 29 2003 forester head gasket issue
by lotus35
Oct 03, 2010 (5:20 pm)
Let me preface this by stating, i have not had any "symptoms" of a blown headgasket. I noticed a couple small spots under my car, but that is it. My subaru dealership saw an external leak around both gaskets. Got a second opinion and he said it was just "seeping" and the headgaskets would have to be dealt with at some point. That was at 79,000. I have done nothing, but check oil, which is always at full mark and keep an eye on coolant reserve tank, which was usually around half full. Now I have 83,600 and have noticed in the last month that my coolant in reserve tank is just above the low mark. Still, no symptoms though. Went to a third mechanic and they said HG were leaking, but did not really say anything about the coolant loss. Both previous mechanics said it was an external(oil) HG problem. They changed oill and topped off the coolant. Here is the question..I bought this car from the dealership at 36,600miles. I noticed the service recordss indicated at 34,400 they had done a one-sided engine cylinder overhaul. I was niave enough to take them at their word that it was fixed and there were no other problems. Could that have contributed to this problem? I am reluctant to fix this if this car is going to be prone to engine problems. Maybe that should have been a red flag in the first place...
Any help/advice would be greatly apprciated!!!
#13 of 29 Re: 2003 forester head gasket issue [lotus35]
by ateixeira
Oct 05, 2010 (8:39 am)
They probably did change the gaskets and think it was resolved, but...
If the heads overheat and warp, even a new gasket won't seal properly.
The thing is, at 79k miles, that was several years after the service was done, so it's unlikely the dealer botched the job. You would have seen the issue right away.
#14 of 29 Re: 2003 forester head gasket issue [ateixeira]
by lotus35
Oct 09, 2010 (7:24 am)
Actually, Subaru is paying for it, which is surprising. Would it be prudent to get the timing belt/water pump/thermostat/spark plugs replaced at this time while the engine is already dismantled to save on labor cost or will they replace some of that during the head gasket replacement?
#15 of 29 Re: 2003 forester head gasket issue [lotus35]
by cabriggs
Oct 09, 2010 (7:29 pm)
When I had my wife's '03 Forester's head gasket done, they did the timing belt for an additional $90. This dealer told me that on Foresters they never replace the water pump on a schedule, only if it starts leaking, which surprised me but I went along with it. They said they'd inspect it. I don't remember them saying anything about it afterward, so either they forgot about it or I did. Didn't think of the thermostat or plugs.
#16 of 29 Re: 2003 forester head gasket issue [lotus35]
by xwesx
Oct 11, 2010 (10:03 am)
It is probably overkill to replace the water pump and thermostat with as few of miles as you have, but I'd do it since they are already in there. I didn't replace my water pump the first two times I had the engine torn apart (once at 83,000 and again at 144,000), and it failed on me at 177,000... at -25F, 0200 on a Sunday morning; it was not the best of circumstances!
All of these items should be charged strictly at the cost of the parts with no additional labor cost.
#17 of 29 Re: 2003 forester head gasket issue [xwesx]
by dcm61
Oct 11, 2010 (4:07 pm)
All of these items should be charged strictly at the cost of the parts with no additional labor cost.
Replacing the water pump is additional labor (they don't have to touch it when doing the t-belt).
I was charged 1 hour additional labor (+ coolant) to do the water pump and thermostat on my '96 Outback, when they did the front crank seal and timing belt.
#18 of 29 Re: 2003 forester head gasket issue [dcm61]
by xwesx
Oct 12, 2010 (9:16 am)
Yes, but I think the original poster needs to have head gaskets replaced, which digs much further into the engine than the timing belt replacement. Even so, it is still a good idea to have the pump replaced when doing the timing belt service.
#19 of 29 Re: 2003 forester head gasket issue [cabriggs]
by ateixeira
Oct 12, 2010 (9:35 am)
For $90 heck yes I'd change the timing belt.
Technically it's not due until 105k, though.