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#280 of 305 TSB 0287-10
Jan 20, 2012 (8:47 pm)
Just got my 2011 Camry XLE 6 speed auto with the 2AR-FE 4 cylinder back from a different Dealer than I usually use. My complaints where poor gas mileage and the notorious transmission complaint as seen right here on this site. I got the standard Toyota answer for both, No Defect Found. This is the second Dealer on the tranny gripe. They did tell me that TSB 0287-10 is out for the transmission but didn't elaborate more on it. I think it's a re flash.
Anyone have this TSB done on their Camry? If so did it fix anything or just make things worse.
#281 of 305 Re: TSB 0287-10 [pct108]
Jan 21, 2012 (6:48 am)
thanks for the TSB # I will call Toyota today and see if it applies to my VIN
my Camry is now at 8700 miles and runs a little better than it did but there are times when the "sluggish" transmission is still very prominent
hope we all find a solution to this issue one day !
#282 of 305 Re: AT Problems with Toyota Camry LE 2.5, 2011 [artiyom]
Jan 24, 2012 (8:49 am)
These days the only mechanical connection between the shifter and the transmission is the one used to engage/release the parking pawl when you shift into/out of "P". All other functions are implemented via electrical switches. Allong with the "park" mechanization is the shift lock, complements of Audi.
When you wish to shift out of park there is an electromechanical interlock that prevents you from doing so absent having the brakes firmly applied. That interlock system may be what you are feeling when shift out of or into "P".
Look in the owners manual for teh method that can be used to manually over-ride, bypass, the electric solenoid that locks the shifter into "P" and try over riding it manually a few times and see if that doesn't alleviate the movement restriction.
#283 of 305 Re: TSB 0287-10 [delbar]
Jan 24, 2012 (8:52 am)
downshift hesitation wwest
Sluggish or a noticeable delay in downshifting for re-acceleration?
#284 of 305 Re: TSB 0287-10 [pct108]
Jan 30, 2012 (6:45 am)
For those wondering, I had TSB 0287-10 applied to my 2010 Camry LE 4 cylinder a couple of days ago. The dealer I went to continued to tell me "this is how it will always be" and insisted nothing was wrong, but after I told him the specific TSB number they did apply it for free (I'm at 22k miles).
It seems to help a little. Acceleration is smoother during city driving. However, the downshift "almost stalling" sensation is still there. Overall, glad I got it but the fundamental problem is still there and is still bothersome. Hope this helps!
#285 of 305 Re: TSB 0287-10 [guptron]
Jan 30, 2012 (1:53 pm)
thanks for the input let us know how it continues to run
my problem is the downshifting so seems it would not help this situation at all
wish they would just "come clean" and admit they have a design issue
and fix it
I dont like the fact that we cannot check our transmission fluid (no dipstick)
anyway good luck
#286 of 305 Owner, 80/20 satisfied.
Feb 01, 2012 (11:58 pm)
I'm about 80% satisfied with this car, 20% nervous about it. Me and my husband bought a 2011 Toyota Camry LE a few months ago. I've noticed the rollback on the hill issue. Was trying to get out into traffic and I let off my break and my back-end almost smacked into the Jeep behind me. The frightening part was that I actually had to floor it to keep that from happening; the roll was pretty quick and VERY unexpected. Never had an automatic do that to me before in my life.
Also noticed the lurch in traffic. Occasionally the car will jump out from under me. It's almost caused me to rear-end a few people because it happens so quickly. I mean, seeing as we've all either driven or own one, I have the 4cyl and the thing drives like an effing v6 for crying out loud. Tap the gas even a little and you're flying. I love it, but when the lurch happens, I don't love it quite as much. I've also noticed that periodically (not all the time, but at least 6 times in a day of driving) it will hesitate when I brake. I'll have my foot slowly but steadily easing down on the brake to stop at a light or a sign, and it lurches forward when I'm NOT touching my gas pedal. That's the part that makes me the most paranoid considering Toyota has had past issues with the accelerator sticking, so I'm careful with it. I might make some people behind me angry, but I brake WAY ahead of time just to be cautious. Otherwise this has been a wonderful car. Nice features, sleek, comfortable, loud $$ speakers lol.. Great car, just makes me nervous sometimes...
#287 of 305 Re: Owner, 80/20 satisfied. [bean91]
Feb 02, 2012 (9:32 am)
I have read that all of this is normal with the new automatics by many (all) car makers. Just do a little more searching here. The "lurch" forward while braking is not an acceleration problem, but it is the tranny downshifting.
Rollback on a hill? Again, most (all?) new automatics do this. Have you ever driven a manual? Same procedure applies. Get off the brake and on the gas quick, or set parking brake. Or like I do with my manual transmission, use your foot on both brake & gas at the same time, so there is no lag between getting off the brake and on the gas. But since you have automatic, you could just use your left foot on brake when on a steep hill.
I don't think you have any problems. However, I will say I am glad I have my 2010 Camry with a stick shift!
#288 of 305 Re: Owner, 80/20 satisfied. [mcdawgg]
Feb 02, 2012 (10:27 am)
The "sling-shot effect", or the feeling of being bumped lightly from behind, is the result of the transaxle UPSHIFTING once roadspeed declines to the level that the full fuel cut costdown technique must be terminated.
As you coast down in speed with the gas pedal fully released this technique inproves FE. The engine is fully STARVED of fuel but kept turning above stall speed via sequentual downshifting of the transaxle as roadspeed declines. Once roadspeed is too low to sustain the engine RPM fuel flow is restored and the transaxle is upshifted to alleviate/reduce the engine load.
It's that final upshift that gives you the feeling of slight acceleration or "unbraking".
Look at your owners manual for a description of the ESes "hill-hold" technique.
With the advent of so much use of the torque converter lockup clutch it has been possible to make the TC much less robust, not as much drive, torque, to the driven wheels with the engine simply idling.
The hill-hold technique has now been widely adopted to combat the resulting "roll-backwards" (or forward) issue. On some models hill-hold will only be engaged with a little extra push on the brake pedal after coming to a full stop. Hill-hold uses automatic TC, Traction Control, braking to hold the car in place.
As a result, once hill-hold is engaged, you will often experience a slight delay in gas pedal engine response to give the brake system time to release.
Then there is the 1-2 second "re-acceleration" downshift delay/hesitation.
Remember that final coastdown full fuel cut final upshift...?? If you happen to try to accelerate just as the transaxle begins that upshift sequence then DBW will be used to delay rising engine RPM until both the upshift completes and then the required downshift can be completed.
There are quite a few instances wherein this "re-acceleration" issues raises its ugly head, delayed engine response to gas pedal depression.
Most because the transaxle has for some reason selected the wrong gear, or is in the process thereof, and now some driver action, "re-acceleration, say, requires the use of DBW to delay the application of engine torque until the proper, "newly" proper, gear ratio is estabished.
#289 of 305 2011 Ford Fusion 6F35 Transmion Problems
Apr 06, 2012 (1:40 am)
1. From Park Gear slams into drive with force when foot is on brake
2. When taking off faster, shifting up seems smooth, but not always
3. When slowing down with foot off gas, gear downshifts with hard jerk into lower gear about 25 miles per hour.
4. When taking off easy, gear slams in hard into second gear shift sometimes.
5. Shifting up and down is not always smooth whether vehicle is cold or warmed up.
My car is one year old with less than 10,000 miles and is currently at the dealer. I'm told there is an internal transmission problem and the transmission needs to be dropped and checked out.
has anyone else have this problem?