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Cars That Could Have Been Great, But Missed

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#403 of 421 Re: Audi 5000 [hpmctorque] by andre1969

Oct 02, 2011 (12:48 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Oct 01, 2011 7:45 pm)
My 1985 Consumer Guide tested an Audi 5000, and in general they liked it. They scored it 76 out of a possible 100 points. 20 different categories, each ranging from 1-5 points. It scored 76 overall, which was at the high end in that book. A Mercedes 300D scored 77, as did a Volvo GL sedan. Highest scorers were a Toyota Camry and Cressida, both at 78.
 
FWIW, it would be impossible for a car to score a perfect 100, because the categories are so varying. For instance, for a car to score a 5 in acceleration, it would probably score a 1 or 2 in fuel economy.
 
The Audi 5000 got mainly 4's and 5's, got rated 2 for drivability and fuel economy. It was hard to start in cold weather, and got fairly bad fuel economy. It was rated a 3 for heating/ventilation, and 3 for overall value.
 
It got high marks for quality, scoring a 5 for body, 5 for interior, and 4 for paint/exterior. Alas, high initial quality doesn't always make for a good, reliable, long-lasting car.

#404 of 421 Re: Audi 5000 [andre1969] by texases

Oct 02, 2011 (1:34 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 02, 2011 12:48 pm)
Audi kept trying to cover their tracks, changing the 100 to the 5000 to the 100 to the A series. Only now do they seem to be on track to not need another name change in a few years...

#405 of 421 Re: Audi 5000 [andre1969] by fintail

Oct 02, 2011 (4:46 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 02, 2011 12:48 pm)
Funny thing is that by 1985, the 300D was a 9 year old design. MB could really get away with a lot then. Volvo was even older, but those existed in their own world.
 
I think a lot of old Audi issues are related to dealers, both repair quality and parts stocks.

#406 of 421 For 2012... by hpmctorque

Nov 06, 2011 (9:58 am)

...the Honda Civic clearly stand out as a miss. Unlike the Detroit 3 of the '80s, '90s and '00s, though, Honda recently acknowldged what the critics have said about its bread and butter model, and have announced they will move up its mid-cycle refresh.
 
With the soon-to-be-introduced next generation CRV and Accord, we'll see whether the Civic is an aberration, or if Honda is in a funk.

#407 of 421 Re: For 2012... [hpmctorque] by berri

Nov 06, 2011 (7:18 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 06, 2011 9:58 am)
Honda listened to the fan mags too seriously. I expect a turnaround.

#410 of 421 Delorean Survey - Your help is Needed! by bumba

Apr 07, 2012 (10:23 am)

Hello everyone,
 
We are a group of MBA students from the Boston University. Our class project requires us to pick a failed product and revitalize it through design and innovation. We have picked Delorean DMC-12 as our product. In order to gather information for our project. We have designed the following survey to understand your perception about the Delorean vehicle. The survey should take about 5 - 10 minutes to complete.
 
Q1 – Do you know the DeLorean DMC-12?
Q2 – Based on your understanding of the DMC-12, what are the three biggest issues from the original vehicle design?
Q3 – If the DMC-12 is to be redesigned for an all new 2012 model, what are the three most important design elements that should be retained from the original vehicle design?
Q4 – What are the three top 3 features to be added to the new design to improve your user experience?
Q5 – To position DeLorean as an elite sports car brand, how much would you pay for an all new DMC-12?
Q6 – How should the new DeLorean company keep track of customer satisfaction?
Q7 – What should the new DeLorean company to improve the service and user experience of DMC-12?
Q8 – Do you have any other recommendations to the new vehicle or the company?
 
We value your responses and thank you for the support of our project!

#411 of 421 Re: Delorean Survey - Your help is Needed! [bumba] by oldburbnewcx9

May 18, 2012 (3:10 pm)

Replying to: bumba (Apr 07, 2012 10:23 am)
1. Yes, but I have seen ony one.
2. Underpowered in the US, Fingerprints on the stainless steel, too expensive for the delivered product.
3. Gull wing doors, distinctive design, 2 seats only
4. Move power, needs an exclusivity factor and of course a flus capacitor and fusion drive.
5. Over 100K which is still exclusive.
6. On a personal basis. NO internet. At this price level personal contact is the only way.
7. Unknown.
8. Power and looks are required for an exotic car.

#412 of 421 Austin America by hpmctorque

May 24, 2012 (4:29 pm)

Recent posts in "A Spotted An..." discussion mentioned the Austin America. This is a car that was very advanced in configuration and design for its day. It was, essentially, a senior Mini. Unfortunately, it was plagued by quality problems, so it never came close to reaching its sales potential in the U.S. market.

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