Last post on Nov 02, 2011 at 7:55 AM
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#76 of 89 Re: Canadian Cars [puffin1]
Sep 01, 2011 (9:24 am)
Puffin1, actually my preferred "Biere" is Laurentide to go with a Smoked Meat Sandwich and an order of Poutine. I was in Montreal this past week, had a lovely visit as usual, but unfortunately was unable to find Laurentide anywhere. Has Molson stopped marketing it? Getting back to your Post. I agree with basically everything you mentioned but still find it unexplainable how you can mention Kia or for that matter Hyundai vehicles along side of that previous long list of (luxury) automobiles and their content. I currently own a 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback that I custom ordered in Mar. of 2010 and took delivery of in July 2010. I ordered it with many options including the available Power Moonroof. I too appreciate a smaller car that gets over 40 mpg highway, has plenty of upgradeable options and looks good as well. My other vehicle is a 2006 Kia Rio5 which I purchased new and it will be replaced by the upcoming 2012 Kia Rio5 as soon as they are launched. Funny how you arrived at your conclusion that Hyundai is a superior product then its sibling, the Kia. They share virtually identical mechanical components, the same warranty, and are both manufactured by HKAG. The main difference being is that the upcoming Kia Rio and Rio5 Hatchback has vastly more upgradeable option content then its Hyundai counterpart, the decontented 2012 Accent. Here in the U.S., you cannot get a Power Moonroof, Redundant Exterior Mirror Indicators, Push Button Keyless Ignition, and a host of other features, I`m sure if you check out the Canadian Spec 2012 Kia Rio vs the 2012 Hyundai Accent, you will find that the Kia has much more to offer. Also funny you mentioned lousy "timing belts", I have 70K on my 06` Kia Rio and it is still on its original. The new 1.6 ltr GDI engine in both the 2012 Accent & Rio now have a direct gear (diamond coated) timing assembly replacing the previous "timing belt".
PS: Hopefully sometime in late 2011 or early 2012, the U.S. will (finally) get the MercedesBenz B200 that Canada has had now for several years. They may once again scrap the idea since the US Dollar is falling against both the Euro and well as the Canadian Dollar which may make it unattractive to market here in the States due to its increasing price caused by currency fluctuations.
Sep 05, 2011 (4:26 am)
doesn't your 2006 Kia Rio5 need it's timing belt changed out then?
Also funny you mentioned lousy "timing belts", I have 70K on my 06` Kia Rio and it is still on its original. The new 1.6 ltr GDI engine in both the 2012 Accent & Rio now have a direct gear (diamond coated) timing assembly replacing the previous "timing belt".
Those usually need change-out at only 60,000 miles. Just mentionin'.
#78 of 89 Driving impressions
Sep 13, 2011 (5:31 pm)
I wonder what the impressions out there are on the electric assisted steering on these compacts. I drove a Ford Focus (not a direct comparison) and found the steering light, with very little feedback. A complete difference from hydraulic assist. Today I drove a new Accent SE and found the steering clueless. You could point the car down a straight street and take your hands off the wheel. Even the curvature of the road didn't affect it. Of course, this impression was after getting out of my Infiniti G35, quite a difference. I am seriously considering an Accent SE or Rio5, but wonder if you can relax while driving them with this contrast in handling. Any experiences?
Also, don't forget to turn off the Eco mode when testing. The car was a wimp with it on and I didn't get to try it much otherwise. I love the room and utility for the price. I am comparing it to the Fit. which needs a wake-up call with it's mpg currently.
#79 of 89 2012 Kia Rio5 Prices and Content mixed value?
Oct 02, 2011 (7:53 am)
Now that prices and options have been released on the Kia USA site, I find it odd that Kia has in someways kept prices very close to its sibling Hyundai Accent but taken away content. As an example, the 2012 Hyundai Accent GS, its (base) model 5 Door Hatchback, has a MSRP of $16,550 which includes the Automatic Transmission (and) Power Windows,Mirrors, Door Locks and Remote Key Fob. and Cruise Control. The 2012 Kia Rio5 LX , its (base) model 5 Door Hatchback has a MSRP of $16,445 adding the Power Package to get the Power Windows, Mirrors, Door Locks and Remote Key Fob, (But) does not include the Cruise Control! I mere $105 savings and you loose the Cruise Control but gain the 15`` Tires and Wheels instead of Hyundai`s 14``. Both have Wheel Covers. IMO, the Kia still has the definite edge with better exterior styling and design, but as they say, "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder".
Oct 02, 2011 (8:44 am)
just got the latest issue of car and driver yesterday, and they have a comparison test of "B" class cars. They included a Rio5 (AT) and Accent (stick). Tested against the Sonic, Fit, Yaris, Versa and ( think 1 more.
#81 of 89 Re: test [stickguy]
Oct 03, 2011 (9:12 am)
stickguy; Guess they are not very fond of the Kia/Hyundai products over at Car and Driver Magazine, you think? I own a 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback which I have driven 13K over the past 14 months. I love the car, it gets great fuel economy, 33 mpg city and 41 mpg highway consistently. Has plenty of power, good handling and braking, and IMO, wins the Swim Suit Competition, hands down. Now, getting (back) on Topic, I`m still going to purchase a 2012 Kia Rio5 as soon as I can locate one, at a reasonable price without paying all that Dealer`s Fee`s and "Limited availability Crap. I want a (Base) LX in Clear White with Beige Cloth Interior, added Automatic Transmission, with the added Power Package(Windows, Locks, Mirrors, and Remote Key Fob) plus Carpeted Floor Mats. I think for a MSRP of $16,445, including Freight, its a (very) excellent value, regardless if its a half second slower in the zero to 60 or quarter mile testing then the others vehicles they evaluated. Its priced right, looks very sharp (better then the Hyundai Accent GS) and should get excellent gas mileage. What more does C & D expect? It is what it is! A "B-Segment" Sub Compact,period. You want more, spend 50K and buy an Audi. The Honda Fit is a very nice well built car that has lots of room, great reliability,excellent trade in value but looks "old and outdated" too. Plus, the 5 year/60K Bumper to Bumper Warranty that Kia/Hyundai offers (plus) the 10 year/100K Drive Train Warranty given to the (original) purchaser, simply can`t be beat.
#82 of 89 Re: test [phill1]
Oct 03, 2011 (10:24 am)
it was more cruiser than sports sedan, which always hurts it with C&D.
#83 of 89 Re: test [stickguy]
Oct 03, 2011 (1:50 pm)
Perhaps since Kia opted to eliminate the 6 speed Manual Transmission from the new 2012 Rio5, except in its limited availability Base LX line, it provoked (their) rathe. If they rate that cheap imitation of the Ford Fiesta, the Mazda 2, better then either the Accent or the Kia, its pure and simple "Bias". I`m a Dog lover and it makes me sick knowing that they are being served, "on the plate" everyday in Korea, but you have to give credit for HKAG Group building some very fine (affordable) vehicles with the (best) Warranty in the Industry.
Oct 08, 2011 (9:20 pm)
are they still eating dogs over there? Yikes. That's pathetic.
#85 of 89 Installing Daytime Running Lights in a 2012 U.S. Spec Kia Rio5
Oct 18, 2011 (1:05 pm)
I need the help of someone who`s speciality is "Electrical" and or works at a Kia Dealerships service department or perhaps one of you Canadian readers can advise me. I`m awaiting the arrival of my 2012 Kia Rio5 LX and I am determined to have Daytime Running Lights installed on this vehicle. Only the SX Trim Models in the U.S. gets the LED DRL`s. As usual lower Trim Models like the LX and the EX get no DRL`s. Odd, that here in the U.S., Hyundai only puts DRL`s on two of its vehicles currently, Sonata & Elantra. Kia here in the U.S. only puts the LED DRL`s on its top of the Line SX Models in its Kia Rio, Sportage and Sodona. I know that in Canada since its been mandated by Law, (all) vehicles must have DRL`s regardless of Model Trim. I would be just as happy having the regular DRL`s work off the vehicles headlights at 75% power as most cars do. Kindly tell me if there is a Part # for a DRL Module that can be quickly and inexpensively installed on a 2012 Kia Rio5. "conwelpic" you seem to be up on lots of Kia specifics, can you hook me up so I can get those Daytime Running Lights up and "running" as soon as I take delivery of my vehicle? Thanks for anyone that can be of assistance. If its a Part Number for the Module that is only available through Kia Canada Parts Department, if it can be retro-fitted into a U.S. spec Kia Rio`s wiring harness, I`ll get one shipped down here to Florida from Canada. And NO, I don`t want to accomplish that function by driving around during the "daytime" with both my headlights and tail lights burning in order to get the desired effect.