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Hyundai Accent, Hatchback
#77 of 223 Re: New hatchback model gripes [phill1]
May 24, 2011 (4:25 pm)
But for Hyundai to be bragging on its new 2012 Accent that will get an estimated 40 mpg highway fuel economy while its larger, more luxurious Elantra with a larger 1.8 liter engine gets the same EPA fuel rating...huh, did I miss something?
No. See my post #45. I agree with you... it's odd that the Accent doesn't get hardly any better FE than the larger, more powerful Elantra. But OTOH, the Accent (and Rio) do match other small cars in the same class, e.g. the Fiesta SFE--and that car requires an extra-cost package to get 40 mpg.
But one thing I don't understand... how can you complain about the FE of the Accent just a few posts after talking about how much you love the Rio, which I think has the same FE numbers despite having the same powertrains as the Accent PLUS the idle-stop feature? Wouldn't you think the Rio would have better FE numbers than the Accent?
#78 of 223 Re: New hatchback model gripes [backy]
May 25, 2011 (5:47 am)
backy: First, as an owner of a 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback that I purchased in July of 10` with 8K miles driven, I get 34-35 mpg city and 41-42 mpg highway (without) the extra cost SFE Package. Ford decided just before Launch to (add) all the SFE features (except) the special low resistance tires, on the entire line of Fiesta vehicles making the purchase of the SFE option quite unnecessary. The Ford Fiesta EPA FE ratings are over 10% (lower) then what most Fiesta owners actually achieve. When have you seen that lately? Great Job FORD! Secondly, I agree the sibling twin of the Hyundai Accent the new 2012 Kia Rio5 will probably also get lower FE numbers then it should. I believe since Kia will offer "ISG" Idle,Stop,Go Technology on its Rio, it will get better gas mileage then the Hyundai Accent. It just does not make sense to assume that adding ISG will not improve gas mileage then a similar vehicle without it. The main reason I will end up with the Kia Rio over the Hyundai Accent will (not) be an extra 2 mpg fuel savings but the much more expanded options content that the Kia Rio will have available and the Hyundai Accent will (not).
#79 of 223 Re: New hatchback model gripes [phill1]
May 25, 2011 (11:31 am)
The Ford Fiesta EPA FE ratings are over 10% (lower) then what most Fiesta owners actually achieve. When have you seen that lately?
On every car I drive. Except it's often more like 15%.
In other words... if you get much better than EPA ratings on the Fiesta, odds are you'll get much better than EPA ratings on the Rio (or Accent).
#80 of 223 Re: New hatchback model gripes [backy]
May 25, 2011 (1:00 pm)
Thats is certainly News to me. Every new Car I`ve purchased in the past 30 years and there have been quite a few, (never), I repeat Never achieved the EPA sticker Fuel Economy estimates. They were always culled using Dynamometer devices that (over) estimated MPG that one got in real driving situations. My Fiesta was a refreshing surprise that it actually exceeded the EPA ratings. Most new car buyers are disappointed to find that their new vehicles never come close to the posted estimates that were on the MSRP sticker. Even more amazing is that I`ve achieved this excellent FE here in South Florida in heavy traffic be it city or highway and with the A/C always engaged due to the year around hot climate. All that in a fully equipped vehicle (loaded) and selling for under 18K! Who needs to spend 25K on a Hybrid?
#81 of 223 Personal Disclosure
May 25, 2011 (1:08 pm)
Just want to Post and make perfectly clear that I do not and never have been Employed or Worked for Ford Motor Co in any capacity whatsoever. Just a happy consumer that really enjoys his Ford Fiesta. Equally happy with both Hyundai and Kia products in the past as well, and plan on putting a new 2012 Kia Rio5 in my driveway as soon as their launched too!
#82 of 223 Re: New hatchback model gripes [phill1]
May 25, 2011 (3:39 pm)
That is good to hear! So I might get 50+ mpg on a Fiesta, in more moderate driving and weather conditions... intriguing. Too bad the rear seat is much tighter than I'd want in a car.
So I have no idea whatsoever why you would be even remotely interested in a Rio, let alone a "stripped" Accent. Why not just buy another Fiesta if you need two cars of that size?
#83 of 223 Re: New hatchback model gripes [backy]
May 26, 2011 (5:41 am)
Actually, considering that the Fiesta is a Sub-Compact /B-Segment vehicle, the rear seat room is not all that bad. As long as the front seat passengers are not over 6` tall and put the seat back all the way, there is adequate room for 2 average size adults in the rear seat. I decided against the 2012 Ford Focus for the same reason I did not want another Fiesta. Who wants either 2 identical or similar twins sitting next to each other in ones garage? Both the exterior and interior of the new Focus is too much the same. I`m attracted to the new 2012 Kia Rio5 because of my good experience with my current 06` Rio5 and the 5 year 60K bumper to bumper warranty as well as the upscale options content and its attractiveness. The new Hyundai Accent is just too (utility) for me.
#84 of 223 Re: New hatchback model gripes [phill1]
May 26, 2011 (6:54 am)
As long as the front seat passengers are not over 6` tall and put the seat back all the way, there is adequate room for 2 average size adults in the rear seat.
If the average-sized adults are contortionists or masochists, yes. I tried out the rear seat room of the Fiesta and it's really, really cramped when sitting "behind myself." And I'm only 5'9-1/2". I think average-sized adults (which I am) would find it intolerable except for a quick trip in town. Which might be just fine for many buyers who only use the front seats and never need to haul adults or teens in back for any distance. That just not me, however. I am curious to see how the new Accent compares. I found the rear accomodations of the old Accent to be tolerable, but certainly not a car I'd want to ride in for any length of time in back. Roomier than the Fiesta though. But the new Accent is bigger than the old one, so I'll have to see if it's roomy enough. If not, I can "move up" to a compact car like the Elantra with a roomy back seat and still excellent FE.
#85 of 223 Re: New hatchback model gripes [backy]
May 26, 2011 (7:36 am)
I`m with you on the upgrade to the vastly more spacious Elantra compared to either the Ford Fiesta or the Hyundai Accent/Kia Rio but since I enjoy the practicality of having the mini-wagon Hatchback design to haul bicycles etc, I will forgo the extra rear passenger seat room for the storage configuration. Just my wife, myself and 2 Golden Retriever`s that usually go for a ride and an occasional guest that may join us for a trip to a local restaurant. Again, it is what it is, a Sub-Compact B-Segment vehicle. Parking and getting through the narrow streets of Key West, FL makes a smaller size vehicle one less headache to deal with. It was never designed for Soccer Mom`s as a substitute for a Mini-Van.
#86 of 223 Any test drives yet?
May 29, 2011 (5:46 pm)
At least one dealer in my area claims to have 2012 Accents, and my closest dealer said they'd be getting some "in a few days". I also see Fitzmall claims to have some in stock. So I was wondering if anyone has taken a test drive yet, or has purchased a 2012 Accent?