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Hyundai Accent, Hatchback
#59 of 223 Re: accent vs rio [backy]
May 15, 2011 (3:33 am)
Backy, your right. I`m out of here. I`ll go back to the Kia Rio forum where I started. I just got dragged into this chat due to a Posting I was sent concerning the 2012 Hyundai Accent "Verna" which I had months earlier contributed to. Needless to say, I feel HMA Hyundai Motors America really dropped the ball with its cheap overpriced 2012 Accent. For whatever reason Hyundai decided to makes its Kia division the darling for the B-Segment class and I`m sure you will soon see that both Kia`s Optima and Rio sales will meet and exceed those of both the Sonata and Accent, just saying.
#60 of 223 Re: accent vs rio [phill1]
May 15, 2011 (10:02 am)
Maybe so. Kia has a dealer deficit vs. Hyundai and some baggage even greater than Hyundai's to overcome, but the Optima is a very nice car and the Rio looks great too (although I prefer the interior styling of the Accent, from what I've seen in photos--the Rio reminds me too much of an old Civic inside). I'll look at both the Rio and Accent (among others) when it's time to get my next car.
May 15, 2011 (8:14 pm)
I sure like the new 2012 Kia Rio hatchback coming out in the fall. Sharp car in white or cream color and I'd opt for the 6-speed, though it wouldn't be imperative to get the 6-speed stick for this rig. I'm more than a little interested in one in a couple years. Maybe.
#62 of 223 Re: accent vs rio [backy]
May 16, 2011 (5:21 am)
backy, I agree I (hate) the 3 bullet cluster instrument panel on the 2012 Kia Rio which they seem now to be embracing along much of their product line (Forte) included. That inexplainable (hole in the dash) to the right of the radio drives me crazy as well. I do like all the content upgrades that Hyundai (does not) offer on its Accent and I prefer the looks of the Rio5 Hatchback`s rear end much better then the Accent`s "Fiesta" style vertical tail lights. Guess it comes down to if you can live with a basically stripped down 2012 Accent or instead a 2012 Rio with a unattractive instrument panel and dashboard. I (do) like the European style toggle switches that control some of the HVAC functions and the leather boot assembly for the automatic transmission shift lever too. Those Projector headlights along with the LED Daytime running lights and LED Tail Lights are unheard of in this class of vehicle too.
#63 of 223 Re: 2012 Hyundai Accent or 2012 Kia Rio? [phill1]
May 17, 2011 (11:36 pm)
Just a minor correction...the base Accent hatch has body colored door handles and mirrors, as well as power windows and remote keyless with alarm. If you get the automatic, it also includes standard cruise. Only the sedan comes in the ultra cheap version. The hatch GS model is by far the best deal of the 2012 Accents. I do wish they would offer standard 15" tires (like the Rio), or at least 185 width 14 inchers instead of the 175 width.
That being said, I'm torn between whether I would choose the Rio5 or the Accent. I prefer the Rio5's exterior styling ( It looks like a mini GTI, especially from the rear!), although the Accent looks good too, except for the funky looking taillights. But the Accent's interior looks more upscale and I prefer the blue/white interior illumination Hyundai uses over the red/white illumination that Kia uses. The available power sunroof on the Rio is also very tempting. Strange that Hyundai doesn't offer that!
#64 of 223 Re: 2012 Hyundai Accent or 2012 Kia Rio? [carfreak09]
May 18, 2011 (4:14 am)
I was one of 30 people that participated last night, Tues May 17 with a Live Chat with John Krafick CEO of Hyundai Motors America. Everyone was throwing him soft balls and being cheerleaders. When I kept asking why the new Accent was so severely "decontented" compared to the new 2012 Kia Rio, he either did not respond and when he did, his only explanation was he could only comment on Hyundai as if he knew nothing about what Kia was doing being a "sibling" company to the parent corporation being Hyundai. I agree with your preference of the Accents more luxurious interior and blue/white instrument panel lighting over the red/white Rio`s, (like Pontiac used for years, very harsh on the eyes), but the LED DRL`s and tail lights, projector head lights, rear view camera monitor, power moon roof, leather interior option, turn signal indicators in exterior mirrors, 17`` Alloy wheels, etc. make the new 2012 Kia Rio my choice. Peter Schreyer former Audi head stylist did a remarkable job with this new B-segment vehicle. For whatever small shortcomings (I) can find, the pluses far out way any negatives. I think Hyundai is aiming its new 2012 Accent for the older AARP demographics with a "who shrunk the Sonata" crowd that wants 40 mpg and the new Kia Rio is being marketed to a younger and more sophisticated group who demand more upscale content and are willing to pay for it.
#65 of 223 Re: 2012 Hyundai Accent or 2012 Kia Rio? [phill1]
May 18, 2011 (1:20 pm)
I agree that the Rio is targeting younger buyers, but I think all the content is going to make the Rio too expensive. If the younger set wants something sporty, it would make more sense to get the new Veloster or even the Forte Koupe once you start getting into the 18-20k range. Personally, I feel the rear view monitor is nothing more than a gimmick. It's not needed at all on a small hatchback like the Rio. The sad thing is they will probably group together this useless frivolous feature with more important stuff in a package, thus forcing you to pay a lot for technology you don't want. The projector headlights are nice, as are the LED running lights, which give it an Audi look. I do wish the standard alloy wheels were 16", not 17", on the SX. The 17" look nice but tires are too expensive and the ride might be too harsh. 16" wheels are a nice compromise. They should make the 17" wheels an option.
#66 of 223 Re: 2012 Hyundai Accent or 2012 Kia Rio? [carfreak09]
May 18, 2011 (1:39 pm)
I agree, I would prefer the 16`` tires to the 17`` due to major extra cost of replacement, but I`d rather eat that extra cost once every 30K miles then live with the standard 14`` tires that the Accent comes with. Can anyone spell Flintstone Car? The rear view monitor will be mandatory standard equipment within a few years mandated by the NHTSA. If your looking for value, once you reach $17, 500. for a 2012 Hyundai GLS Sedan or LE/SE Hatchback with what Hyundai considers the "loaded package", your better off with the Elantra with almost the same equipment, same mpg and MUCH better resale value. I`d rather spend and extra $1000. and get the upgrade options like Power Moonroof, maybe Leather, etc thats available in the Kia Rio or Rio5 then settle for a much more base trim on the Accent and save $1000. I`ll enjoy the extras during my ownership and I`m sure it will be worth a few extra dollars in residual value 5 years down the road.
#67 of 223 New hatchback model gripes
May 21, 2011 (1:00 pm)
I'm always thinking about my next car as soon as I get my last car! My 93 Honda Del Sol Si will probably swapped out for something more practical for a 60+ guy in the next year or two - something just as much fun & economical but more comfortable, better visablity & more cargo room. For several years I was sure a Honda Fit or Nissan Versa would replace it. Now I find these new Korean twins & the Ford Fiesta hatch intriging & will likely add them to my list.
However, two things I have trouble understanding:
1. Why can't the folks at Ford & in Korea can design a nice looking hatch with rear quarter & hatch windows that don't taper down to low rider appearance & visabilty? Those small windows just kill visibility & almost make a back up camera mandatory for a slight stiff old timer like me. Then I suppose they aren't designing these hatches for old timers, but I think I see more grey hairs driving Fits & other hatches than 20 somethings.
2. Also hard for me to understand is why -with two decades to improve engine technology - these new econo cars don't get significantly better gas mileage than an 18 year old Honda. I have had several Honda 1.6 L cars than consistently got 30 mpg city & 38-40 hiway w ATs.
Finally I second the comments on 17" wheels when 15-16" would be just fine for econocars. The larger ones may marginally improve handling but have three negative effects: Heavier & increased fuel consumption, harsher ride & higher replacement costs.
Subaru is a great example with their new Outback. Increased space, comfort & mpg without serious compromises to the practical things such as visablity & overall performance. At least that is why I got one!
Maybe it is time to change my call name to "Grumpy Old Man"
#68 of 223 Re: New hatchback model gripes [204meca]
May 21, 2011 (1:10 pm)
How much did that 18-year-old Honda weigh (and how crash-resistant was it), how big was it, and how much power did it have?
All the safety regs and the need to haul around our ever-enlarged butts (in the US) have their cost.