Last post on Nov 08, 2011 at 7:24 PM
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Hyundai Accent, Hatchback
#196 of 223 Re: GS test drive [dirtbag]
Oct 23, 2011 (9:24 am)
I hope your the Economy on your 2012 Accent LE is NOT indicative of what (most) Accents and Rio`s are going to achieve with their much touted 1.6 GDI engine. My 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback (without) the optional SFE package and 6 speed automatic transmission has consistently produced 33 mpg city with AC engaged 100% of the time and 41 mpg or better highway driving at 70 to 80 mph. Simply amazing when you factor in that the Ford Fiesta has the added disadvantage of having the added weight of a Emergency Spare Tire and Jack Tool Kit in its trunk which, allegedly was the reason given by both Hyundai and Kia why they eliminated it and replaced it with a toy mini air-compressor and can of tire sealant goo. I`m sure the fact that the same toy mini air-compressor and can of tire sealant goo kit can be bought on Amazon.com for $20 retail, had (nothing) to do with their decision. I also want to note that the Fuel Economy on my Fiesta has remained constant from delivery of vehicle in July of 2010 to the present, with 15K driven. There is absolutely no excuse for a small B-Segment vehicle (not) to achieve the same or (better) Fuel Economy then the Hyundai Elantra which has a larger displacement engine, (no) GDI and is a larger/heavier vehicle. Both have the identical E.P.A. Fuel Estimate numbers.
#197 of 223 Re: Good thorough review! [nucarshopr]
Oct 23, 2011 (9:38 am)
nucarshopr, Glad to hear that your folks are enjoying their Base Model Ford Fiesta "S". I have to admit I got a good laugh since you began posting on this Blog about your decision making on purchasing a (new) vehicle. Since apparently, you and your family do this once ever 2 decades, I can see the need to be very careful with your decision, since you will be "married" to it until it goes to the Salvage Yard. I would`nt worry too much about either your preference for the Honda Civic or for that matter any other vehicle currently on the market. When (you) finally decide to "pull the trigger" as they say, there will be either full battery operated or hydrogen powered vehicles, or perhaps we will go back to the Horse and Buggy Days. You have no idea how much Car Salesmen love "tire kickers" like you. One can only spend so much time doing Crossword Puzzles before needing some form of a diversion.
#198 of 223 Re: GS test drive [dirtbag]
Oct 23, 2011 (10:00 am)
Have you had the wheel balance, and alignment, checked on your car? There's something wrong if you would be off the road in 5 seconds.
Keep in mind the FE will improve on your Accent as the engine fully breaks in. I've found the magic point to be around 15k miles on Beta engines... not sure what it would be on the Gamma.
#200 of 223 Re: GS test drive [backy]
Oct 23, 2011 (1:55 pm)
"Have you had the wheel balance, and alignment, checked on your car? There's something wrong if you would be off the road in 5 seconds."
Actually, five seconds is quite a long time at 65 mph (476 feet).
No I haven't had it checked. The nearest dealer is 100 miles away and I suspect they'd test drive it and say everything is normal. My only gripe is that it doesn't track like the half dozen other new cars I've bought over the years. I can live with it and hope perhaps it will improve as the tires wear.
Thanks for your suggestion. If the car constantly pulled to the left, or pulled to the right, I'd have it checked.
#201 of 223 Re: GS test drive [backy]
Oct 24, 2011 (6:56 am)
backy, Not to split (hairs) and dispute how much "smaller" the 2012 Kia Rio5 is in size, both Interior wise and well as Exterior dimensions, afte rechecking the specifications, your (are) right in one detail. The 2012 Accent GS is in fact larger in Cargo Volume (rear seat up). As you stated, the Accent indeed is bigger, 21 cu. ft, vs the Rio with a mere 15 cu. ft. I`m quite surprised! My 2012 Kia Rio5 brochure does not give total cargo volume figures but perhaps your numbers are accurate, again giving the fact that both vehicles are very close in every other dimension, don`t you figure its a bit odd that Kia lists Passenger volume at 88.4 cu ft and the Accent has 90.1, not much more, would you say? I know that Passenger volume is not the same as Cargo volume, but just saying. Other comparisons that you did not list are as follows: (Hatchback Models)
Wheel Base: Accent 101.2 Rio 101,2 Exactly the same
Track: Front/Rear Accent 59.3-59.5 Rio 59.9/60.1 Rio a tiny bit wider
Length: Accent 162.0 Rio 159.3 Kia almost 3`` shorter
Width: Accent 57.1 Kia 57.3 Kia a tiny bit wider
Legroom: (f/r) Accent 41.8/33.3 Kia 43.8/31.1
Mixed bag there, Accent: Less in front & a bit more in back
Headroom: (f/r) Accent 39.1/37.8 Kia 40.0/37.6 Both cars almost same
Shoulder Room: Accent 53.7/53.4 Kia 53.1/52.1 Both cars almost same
Hip Room: (f/r): Accent 51.3/47.2 Kia 52.1/51.2 Kia (4``) wider in rear
Passenger Volume: Accent 90.1 cu.ft Kia 88.4 cu.ft.Accent 1.5 cu.ft.more
Cargo Volume, Rear Seat up: Accent 21.2 cu. ft. Rio 15.0 cu.ft
As you posted, The Accent (is) larger by 6 cu. ft, very odd?
My point is, these 2 vehicles are basically sibling twins and share pretty much identical mechanical and interior specifications. Other then the rear cargo room with rear seat up, where the Accent wins by 6 cu. ft., I`m sure with the rear seats folded down, the comparisons would be much closer as all the other interior dimensions are pretty much the same. It all boils down to which vehicle appeals most to you. For the few extra cu. ft. of storage, if that was a major deal breaker, one would (not) purchase a B-Segment /Sub Compact vehicle to begin with, would you say? Finally, on the matter of not having a Beige Cloth Interior option on either the Accent GS (or) the LE, IMO several colors just don`t work with the Charcoal Grey Fabric. I`ve seen the 2012 Kia Rio5 in Clear White, Midnight Black and Signal Red (Hyundai refers to it as "Boston Red"), and all the above mentions Exterior colors look (much) better again, IMO, with the Beige Interior. The Dark Grey looks very drab, especially in Clear White and the other colors mentioned too. If I (were) to purchase a 2012 Hyundai Accent, I would definitely opt for the Sedan over the Hatchback for those reasons depending on my Exterior Color choice plus I think the Sedan looks better too.
#202 of 223 Re: GS test drive [phill1]
Oct 24, 2011 (6:46 pm)
Other comparisons that you did not list are as follows...
I didn't list them becasue they are immaterial to me. Also to you, since you have decided to buy a Rio5, right?
I only gave the rear passenger room volume and cargo volume specs because you said I was wrong when I wrote that I thought the Accent looked bigger in back than the Rio5. Turned out my impression from seeing both cars nearly side by side was accurate. I notice you didn't mention the cargo volumne with rear seats down, which is a huge (no pun intended) advantage for the Accent.
I think it's clear the two cars are not twins. They do share some mechanical parts including powertrains, but exteriors and interiors are much different, also tires/wheels and available options. The Accent has a boxier profile in back, which helps it get more cargo and passenger room back there. The Rio5 is more streamlined in back, which some people (like you) prefer. I prefer the utility of more cargo room when I need it. That's one reason I'll take a close look at the Accent, and also the Fit when it's time to buy my next car--it has exceptional cargo and rear passenger room for this class of car. Also it's supposed to have perhaps the best-in-class shifter.
#203 of 223 tracking on freeway
Oct 28, 2011 (7:18 am)
I did some unscientific tests of my 2012 Accent SE on the freeway to see how the tracking really is. Perhaps it's not as bad as I first thought. Several times I removed my hands from the wheel on straight stretches at 65 mph, with no other traffic around. It takes between five and nine seconds before I'm over the line, drifting into the passing lane on the left or onto the rumble strip on the right. I don't think this is any worse than most other vehicles.
Because the steering is somewhat stiff at highway speeds, it seems to take some effort to make minor adjustments. Maybe this added to my initial perception that the tracking isn't so great.
#204 of 223 Re: GS test drive [backy]
Oct 28, 2011 (8:20 am)
The only reason I posted all those comparison numbers between the Accent Hatchback and the Rio5 showing that (all) dimensions were almost the same for both vehicles with the sole exception of the added extra cargo volume the Accent has over the Rio5 with seats up or down. The other number comparisons that I posted, that are immaterial to you, and for that matter myself as well, were only presented to prove (my point) that although the two vehicles have completely different interiors and exteriors, wheel/tire sizes, options, etc. it is evident that although they are definitely (not) identical Twins, they are very much fraternal Twins. True, I have made (my) decision to which of these two B-Segment cars I will purchase for reasons of looks as well as options and interior choices, there may be others curious of the specifications the two vehicle (do) share in common. Since I have no vested interest one way or the other of yours or anyone else`s final choice, I think we can agree, it all boils down to personal preference. Since I know a lot of people read both "threads" pertaining to the 2012 Hyundai Accent as well as the 2012 Kia Rio, I assumed that readers would like to digest the comparisons and differences that both you and myself have brought to light. I`m sure if and when you "pull the trigger" and purchase either the Accent or the Fit, you will share your thoughts. I know I will as soon as I finally take delivery of my 2012 Kia Rio5. Cheers!
#205 of 223 My 2012 Kia Rio5 arrived at last!
Nov 01, 2011 (10:37 am)
My wait is finally over. Yesterday I got a call from one of the 7 Kia Dealerships that I was on a "wait list" to purchase a 2012 Kia Rio5. A base model LX, Clear White with Beige interior and automatic transmission, with the optional "Power Package" had just rolled off the Car Carrier Trailer at the Dealership when I was notified. I was getting a bit antsy and would have paid the extra $800 an upgraded to an EX with standard equipment if the LX had not arrived first, as long as it had the same color combination. Closed the Deal last night as the Dealership was shutting its doors at 9:00 PM. Plan on taking delivery probably Wed or Thur evening. I`ll Post my first impressions after I`ve driven it a few days. Funny, I was prepared to travel up to 150 miles to locate this vehicle, and would`nt you know it, I ended up finding it locally! Kia Dealerships here in South FL have so few in inventory, they won`t consider a swap with another Dealer unless they get another Kia Rio5 in exchange in a different color or trim configuration. Maybe in a month or two the supply will improve.