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Hyundai Accent, Hatchback
#120 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [hcalcat]
Jun 21, 2011 (11:21 am)
Hyundai coming out with that marketing ploy of "guaranteed trade-in value" was brilliant! If you read all the disclaimers though of deductions for (above-normal wear & tear) excessive mileage, specified windows of trade in opportunity and the big one, having all Manufacturer recommended maintenance and service performed at a Hyundai Dealership, they can readily afford to stick their neck out and predict a residual trade in value much like the (buy-out) number you get with a regular Lease. Once you factor in all those expensive $40 oil changes and recommended 6K, 12K, 18K, 24K, etc "recommended procedures", whatever extra you get on trade in towards purchasing another Hyundai product, you have already paid them out of pocket AND thats if you meet (all) the pre-qualifications and you choose another Hyundai. CarMax already offers basically Kelly Blue Book trade in values for quality cars they will buy from the public now if a Dealer low-balls the trade in vehicle and this also allows one to shop for a replacement of (any) Brand vehicle. Again, if the new Hyundai Accent works for you, enjoy. If you don`t need the Hyundai Guaranteed Trade-In Promo, I`d not worry about the new 2012 Kia Rio`s, allegedly 3`` exterior shortage difference and wait till fall, I know I am. I`m sure the interior specifications will be almost identical.
#121 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [phill1]
Jun 21, 2011 (11:02 am)
Do you mean "the Kia Rio's 3" difference"? Figured you did but your punctuation made me wonder since you leave spaces where there shouldn't be. Funny how wrong punctuation can leave others wondering what was meant.
#122 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [sandman_6472]
Jun 21, 2011 (11:17 am)
Your right, I was referring to the 3 `` shorter exterior dimensions the new 2012 Kia Rio or Rio5 allegedly has compared to the new 2012 Hyundai Accent. Thanks
Jun 29, 2011 (6:32 am)
A couple weeks ago I test drove several new cars including the new Accent.The one I drove came loaded with all the packages included with the auto tranny.I have to admit it was a nice car.A bit more power than the Yaris about the same as the Corrolla but less than the 2012 Civic.Handling was good to but again I liked the Civic best.I haven't been able to drive the Fiesta yet and that's the only other contender I'm looking at.There are several things I REALLY don't like about the Accent.First and foremost is the fact that the dealers won't budge on the price.Next is since it's a completely redesigned car nothing is known about reliability.Most every new design has bugs to be worked out and I seriously doubt the new Accent will be any different in that regard.Even with the package upgrades you don't even get a donut spare tire.Only a flat tire repair kit that's only good for a few miles use.Thats absurd by any standard.For me the proven reliability/quality of the Civic and Toyotas I drove far outweigh what the Accent offers.
#124 of 223 Re: Test drive [nucarshopr]
Jun 29, 2011 (6:46 am)
FWIW, the 2012 Civic is new also, thus unproven reliability. And the closest comparison to the Accent (hatch) is the Fit, not the Civic. A comparably equipped Civic costs thousands more than the Accent. So the Civic SHOULD be a much better car.
Of course, the Corolla is also not a good comparo to the Accent. The Yaris is. Just based on interior quality and room alone, also fuel economy and power, I'd go for the Accent over the Yaris.
#125 of 223 Re: Test drive [nucarshopr]
Jun 29, 2011 (6:53 am)
nucarshpr, As the owner of a 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback that I`ve owned since last July, 10` and driven 9K miles, I can say, I really like this vehicle. Great city fuel economy 34 mpg and constant 41 mpg highway, (without) the extra cost SFE package. Complaints about tight rear seat room, (its a Sub--Compact/B-Segment car). If your not stuck on a Hatchback, you should look at the 2012 Hyundai Elantra. Just $1,500. more then a similar equipped Accent and (much) more car. Unfortunately, still no emergency donut spare tire or jack but a salvage yard could remedy that quickly and cheaply. AND, same fuel economy as the smaller Accent too!
#126 of 223 New Model vehicle reliability...
Jun 29, 2011 (7:08 am)
I think recent history has proven that first year "jitters" of having serious issues with a new vehicles launch is pretty much in the past. See any problems with the recent launch of Hyundai`s Sonata, Elantra, or for that matter, the 2011 Ford Fiesta? In the last decade, (all) car manufacturers have road tested their new offerings under all kinds of harsh conditions for hundreds of thousands of miles before (full) production is begun. This is not your (fathers Oldsmobile). anymore. Back in "the day", Cars were quickly made and shipped to the dealers to fix production problems, thats not standard operating procedure anymore.
#127 of 223 Re: New Model vehicle reliability... [phill1]
Jun 29, 2011 (11:29 am)
Actually just the opposite appears true. With all the new models and high tech gadgets, new models are appearing with numerous problems.
Declining Quality in New Models
#128 of 223 Declining Quality in New Models
Jun 29, 2011 (1:28 pm)
IMO, "most" new vehicles 2010-2012 both Domestic and Imported have very good quality build and few minor repair issues. Consumer Reports, JD Powers, and the rest of those Quality Survey folks take data both actual and "perceived" problems with new car owners and comply a list of the good, bad, and the ugly. I have a new 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback which I previously posted about. I purchased it in July 10` and have driven it 9K so far. NO Problems whatsoever, lucky? Perhaps, but I (did not) order the Sync System or the High Tech Ford My Touch either. I have to admit, I did order the Power Moonroof, but to date it has not failed nor has the power windows, power door locks, nor power mirrors either. The more technology you prefer adding to your vehicle, the more technology "crashes" you can expect. I use a small flip (dumb) phone, never have a problem. Want a state of the art iPhone, Blackberry, LTE Adroid 4 G, have fun. How many issues have the 2011 Hyundai Sonata or Elantra had? Ask their owners for (real) input. You can get a Lemon with a 15K car as easily as a 100K vehicle but, all in all, most new cars even in their first year of Launch have proven for the most part to be reliable and dependable transportation, "IF" you avoid the temptation to load them up with High Technology toys that will at some point crash and fail and give endless aggravation. Just saying........who wants to purchase a vehicle in its last year of production before either a major refresh or replacement? Most people would like driving a car that looks new and pretty much the same for 4 or 5 years before it looks dated and obsolete. We all have choices, and true, some end up with "Buyers Regret".
#129 of 223 Re: Test drive [backy]
Jul 02, 2011 (7:14 am)
While it's true the 12 Civic is new to an extent it's changes vs the 11 version are quite modest compared to the completely new12 Accent.I should have mentioned some prices in my original post.I can get the DX Coupe with manual tranny for 15,500 compared to the GLS manual at 15,040.These are actual selling prices at the dealers I visited.Granted there's no AC or audio available with the DX which I'm not happy about but installing a decent audio system won't add much to the final cost.The AC is another story but IMO Honda' excellent record for reliability,more room front/back/trunk space,15" wheels/spare (vs 14" wheels/repair kit with the Accent),bigger more powerful engine still edges out the Accent for the money.Now the Fiesta S sedan with manual might well be the best deal of all.I was able to get in one but since it was already sold I couldn't actually take it for a spin.With the 500 cash back Ford has in place now it would only be 13,495.I might even be able to negotiate the price lower still.Considering what it comes with even in the basic S version that's very juicy.I should also mention I really don't want a lot of the frills like bluetooth,navigation,USB ports,moon roof and such.All I want is a car that's reasonably fun to drive,good on gas and reliable.