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#115 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [hcalcat] by phill1

Jun 20, 2011 (10:30 am)

Replying to: hcalcat (Jun 20, 2011 9:36 am)
No new news in these reviews. Not a bad small car but nothing great either. One error in the Motortrend review was their price difference between both a 2012 Hyundai Accent GLS Sedan and a 2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS Sedan. Both vehicles with the identical equipment are only separated by a mere $1,500. $18, 900 for the Elantra and $17,400 for the Accent. Same Fuel Economy Too! No $3000. price gap and a hell of a lot more car with (much) better future residual (trade-in) value. A no brainer IMO.

#116 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [phill1] by hcalcat

Jun 20, 2011 (4:39 pm)

Replying to: phill1 (Jun 20, 2011 10:30 am)
You seem to focus on features, size, price differential, and residual value in your assessment of these two cars. While I would agree that the Elantra may have the edge in features and size, I am more interested in how all the pieces come together. How does it handle, is it quiet and smooth, how does it brake (distance and feel), is it "fun" to drive, what is the "real world" fuel economy, how does it accerate, how sweet a ride, etc? Using a sports analogy, would you rather have a team of Allstars or a team that knows how to play together like a team. What keeps me interested in the Accent (over the Elantra) are these positive reviews, especially the one by Michael Karesh who when asked flat out said "I think the review clearly says Accent > Elantra."
 
 M Karesh 2012 Accent Review
 
As for resale value, it is a huge mistake to base a new model's resale value on a prior model's, especially when the new model represents a quantum leap over the prior model and is already receiving accolades with some reviewers touting it as being at the top of its class. I believe if a car moves to top in class in a class that is growing, it will hold its value very nicely.
 
So unless your cognitive powers and opinion carry more weight than others, picking the Elantra over the Accent is not a "no brainer". It depends on what you are interested in and as the saying goes "different strokes for different folks".

#117 of 223 elantra vs. accent by stickguy

Jun 20, 2011 (8:00 pm)

don't discount $1500. That is about a 10 % upcharge!
 
the other key difference? The elantra only comes in a 4 door. If you want your small car to have some utility, you are OOL at least until they come out with a new touring.
 
Me, the Rio is more interesting then either of the Hyundais, if for no other reason than I want some features (and require a moonroof) even on a small car with good MPG.
 
will have to test sit an Accent this week. Need to pick up a bag of dog food, and the pet store happens to be right next to the hyundai dealer.

#118 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [hcalcat] by phill1

Jun 21, 2011 (5:24 am)

Replying to: hcalcat (Jun 20, 2011 4:39 pm)
Perhaps your right that I have focused more on (my) perceived value of the 2012 Elantra vs the 2012 Accent and true, your buying fun and so called excitement and not cold cuts by the pound at the Deli. And since this new Accent is hardly "out of the gate", future residual trade in values are yet to be determined, but based on past small sub-compact/ B segment vehicles (all makes), they usually don`t return anywhere the same amount as the slightly larger, more popular compact/C segment cars. Even that would not necessarily discourage me from purchasing a sub-compact car that I really was excited about. I admit, I myself purchased a 2011 Ford Fiesta SE hatchback last July which I`m very happy with and I hope to purchase the new 2012 Kia Rio5 Hatchback this fall if the vehicle matches the media buzz it has received so far. After seeing and driving the new 2012 Hyundai Accent, I personally feel its a ok car which could have been a great car if HMA had not "decontented" it. Having very few upgradeable options that were offered in other markets around the world including our neighbor to the north, Canada. It appears the Hyundai figures that its new 2012 Kia Rio and Rio5 will fill that gap.

#119 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [phill1] by hcalcat

Jun 21, 2011 (10:04 am)

Replying to: phill1 (Jun 21, 2011 5:24 am)
You can't base subcompact resale values on past "cheap" models. The new crop of subcompacts (Fiesta, Fit, Accent, and Rio) with their upscale rides, interior volume, and content are really the "new" compacts so their resale value should adjust accordingly along increased demand and market share. I am not worried about resale value in these vehicles.
 
My dilemma is that I waited for the Elantra, waited to see what Honda would do with the 2012 Civic (ok but disappointing), waited for the Accent (I haven't driven one yet), and am now debating whether to wait for the Rio5. My 6 year old 2006 Honda Civic is running fine so I am in no hurry but just getting anxious. If the Rio 5 is just as good as the Accent with more content options, it might be an easy choice. The Rio5 is 3 inches shorter in length in already a small car so I'll have to see how that translates (I prefer a small car that looks "big" versus one that looks "small"). The other negatives for me would be not having the guaranteed trade-in value that Hyundai offers and that the nearest Kia dealer is 25 miles away.
 
On the other hand, if I get the Accent now, I have the option to trade it in in 2 years when something better comes along. Just got to figure Hyundai will stay busy as they relentlessly pursue protecting their advantage over the competition. I think I just talked myself into getting the Accent (if my wife likes it ).

#120 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [hcalcat] by phill1

Jun 21, 2011 (12:21 pm)

Replying to: hcalcat (Jun 21, 2011 10:04 am)
Hyundai coming out with that marketing ploy of "guaranteed trade-in value" was brilliant! If you read all the disclaimers though of deductions for (above-normal wear & tear) excessive mileage, specified windows of trade in opportunity and the big one, having all Manufacturer recommended maintenance and service performed at a Hyundai Dealership, they can readily afford to stick their neck out and predict a residual trade in value much like the (buy-out) number you get with a regular Lease. Once you factor in all those expensive $40 oil changes and recommended 6K, 12K, 18K, 24K, etc "recommended procedures", whatever extra you get on trade in towards purchasing another Hyundai product, you have already paid them out of pocket AND thats if you meet (all) the pre-qualifications and you choose another Hyundai. CarMax already offers basically Kelly Blue Book trade in values for quality cars they will buy from the public now if a Dealer low-balls the trade in vehicle and this also allows one to shop for a replacement of (any) Brand vehicle. Again, if the new Hyundai Accent works for you, enjoy. If you don`t need the Hyundai Guaranteed Trade-In Promo, I`d not worry about the new 2012 Kia Rio`s, allegedly 3`` exterior shortage difference and wait till fall, I know I am. I`m sure the interior specifications will be almost identical.

#121 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [phill1] by sandman_6472

Jun 21, 2011 (12:02 pm)

Replying to: phill1 (Jun 21, 2011 12:21 pm)
Do you mean "the Kia Rio's 3" difference"? Figured you did but your punctuation made me wonder since you leave spaces where there shouldn't be. Funny how wrong punctuation can leave others wondering what was meant.
 
The Sandman

#122 of 223 Re: Another First Drive Report by Autoweek [sandman_6472] by phill1

Jun 21, 2011 (12:17 pm)

Replying to: sandman_6472 (Jun 21, 2011 12:02 pm)
Your right, I was referring to the 3 `` shorter exterior dimensions the new 2012 Kia Rio or Rio5 allegedly has compared to the new 2012 Hyundai Accent. Thanks

#123 of 223 Test drive by nucarshopr

Jun 29, 2011 (7:32 am)

A couple weeks ago I test drove several new cars including the new Accent.The one I drove came loaded with all the packages included with the auto tranny.I have to admit it was a nice car.A bit more power than the Yaris about the same as the Corrolla but less than the 2012 Civic.Handling was good to but again I liked the Civic best.I haven't been able to drive the Fiesta yet and that's the only other contender I'm looking at.There are several things I REALLY don't like about the Accent.First and foremost is the fact that the dealers won't budge on the price.Next is since it's a completely redesigned car nothing is known about reliability.Most every new design has bugs to be worked out and I seriously doubt the new Accent will be any different in that regard.Even with the package upgrades you don't even get a donut spare tire.Only a flat tire repair kit that's only good for a few miles use.Thats absurd by any standard.For me the proven reliability/quality of the Civic and Toyotas I drove far outweigh what the Accent offers.

#124 of 223 Re: Test drive [nucarshopr] by backy

Jun 29, 2011 (7:46 am)

Replying to: nucarshopr (Jun 29, 2011 7:32 am)
FWIW, the 2012 Civic is new also, thus unproven reliability. And the closest comparison to the Accent (hatch) is the Fit, not the Civic. A comparably equipped Civic costs thousands more than the Accent. So the Civic SHOULD be a much better car.
 
Of course, the Corolla is also not a good comparo to the Accent. The Yaris is. Just based on interior quality and room alone, also fuel economy and power, I'd go for the Accent over the Yaris.

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