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#72 of 116 Re: Leaf outselling Volt [gagrice] by larsb

Jun 02, 2011 (8:02 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 02, 2011 7:55 am)
Well, the 20,000 $99 deposits was a reality. They did have that many. There were numerous news stories, and then I tried to logon to the reservation page once and was told "Max Reservations Reached !" So that was not a lie.
 
I think the slow roll-out is why the first 20,000 have not been delivered yet. Or maybe a supply disruption caused by the tsunami has affected the deliveries.
 
But the 20,000 reservations? 100% factual.
 
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/09/23/report-nissan-reaches-20-000-leaf-pre-order- s-will-stop-taking/
 
http://www.allcarselectric.com/news/1049692_nissan-celebrates-20000-reservations- -for-2011-leaf-with-u-s-tour
 
http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-takes-20000th-leaf-reservation.html
 
http://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the-latest/2011-nissan-leaf-hits-20000_vehicle-r- eservation-milestone/
 
Now - is or was there any guarantee that ALL those 20,000 reservers will *ACTUALLY BUY* a Leaf? Of course not.
 
But I'd like to think more than 10% of them have.

#73 of 116 Re: Leaf outselling Volt [gagrice] by larsb

Jun 02, 2011 (8:05 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 02, 2011 7:55 am)
Speaking of the 440V charging stations:
 
Those would be great if they could put one every 100 miles on every major Interstate freeway in the USA.
 
That would allow the Leaf to be used for multiple-day long trips. Albeit S-L-O-W-L-Y.

#74 of 116 Re: Leaf outselling Volt [larsb] by gagrice

Jun 02, 2011 (9:40 am)

Replying to: larsb (Jun 02, 2011 8:05 am)
You may be a bit premature on such a plan. It seems from my google search that finding any charging stations in San Diego is tough. And it seems owners have run into the same roadblock. According to Nissan website San Diego has 1452 level 2 charging stations and 60 DC fast charge stations. In the fine print at the bottom of the Nissan Page is this disclaimer.
 
*Researched by Nissan North America based on program announcements, press releases, news stories and public testimony. The charging infrastructure data presented is indicative of the volume of chargers that public and private entities are planning to install in the next several years. Planned volume may not equate to actual installed volume.
 
On the Volt website an owner writes:
 
For curiosity sake I've been scouring the net trying to find J1772 (Volt and Leaf) compatible public charging stations in San Diego. It appears that not a single one exists in all of the county. There are probably 10-20 sites for the old paddle inductive type (many of which are down). It's a bit disappointing. Anyone know what lies in the future for EV infrastructure?
 
He got this response:
 
I know you are inquiring about Public charging stations, but San Diego Area Nissan dealers have L2 charging stations available for Leaf owners. The Chevrolet dealer on Balboa in Kearny Mesa is supposed to get a L2 charger for customers in a few months after their remodel. I also heard that Quality Chevrolet in Escondido would be getting one.
 
For public charging stations, there really aren't any here yet. There aren't any in the ChargePoint network in San Diego. However, I understand that once the EV Project gets rolling by mid-year there are supposed to be over a 1000 L2 and some L3 charging stations in the San Diego area. See http://www.theevproject.com/overview.php
 
My suggestion to any prospective EV buyer. Make sure there is infrastructure in place and what it will cost. Same goes for utility costs for an EV.

#75 of 116 2184 versus 2167 by larsb

Jun 02, 2011 (10:25 am)

Leaf And Volt almost tied for the 2011 sales year. Interesting.

#76 of 116 Re: Leaf outselling Volt [gagrice] by larsb

Jun 03, 2011 (8:17 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 02, 2011 9:40 am)
Actually, not premature at all for one state. Oregon already starting this infrastructure build-up:
 
http://ecogeek.org/component/content/article/3521
 
As part of the Green Highway project where California, Oregon and Washington are partnering to turn Interstate 5 into the first alternative-fuel-friendly freeway in the U.S., AeroVironment is installing Level 3 EV quick chargers along the route in Southern Oregon.
For this first phase of the project, from the California state line to the Willamette Valley, 150 miles of the highway will have convenient access to EV chargers that can fully charge a battery in 30 minutes. Eight interchanges will be picked based on common destinations, vehicle range and driving distances. The chargers will be installed by the end of the fall.
 
The Green Highway will ultimately run from San Diego to Vancouver, B.C. and will feature not only EV charging and battery swap stations, but alternative fuel filling stations for biodiesel, compressed natural gas and hydrogen. The project is being funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
 
via Engadget

#77 of 116 Re: Leaf outselling Volt [larsb] by gagrice

Jun 03, 2011 (11:54 am)

Replying to: larsb (Jun 03, 2011 8:17 am)
Let me know when it is done and what the cost to recharge is. I wonder how many $billions are wasted on that project? Who's pocket is that money going into? And who has to maintain that system after it is in place?
 
Too many of the high dollar projects I saw put into Alaska ended up worthless. The money to build is granted and the project is completed. Then when it breaks no one to maintain it. I am sure with the Feds involved it will be just such a boondoggle.
 
If you buy a Leaf get the expensive one with the 440V charging ability. It cannot be added later.

#78 of 116 Home charger by jiamin

Jun 24, 2011 (8:26 am)

If I have a home charger, is it easy to uninstall and install it by my self if I move?
I'd guess it's not difficult. Does it require 120V or 220V in the house?

#79 of 116 Re: Home charger [jiamin] by gagrice

Jun 24, 2011 (9:41 am)

Replying to: jiamin (Jun 24, 2011 8:26 am)
They are 220V. If you don't get a contractor in most states you run afoul of the law. You can also void your fire insurance.
 
You can just use the basic 110V built-in charger and plug it into the wall. It just takes 24 hours to charge that way.

#80 of 116 Re: Home charger [gagrice] by early74b

Jun 24, 2011 (2:21 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 24, 2011 9:41 am)
For the LEAF, the charger is also Nissan proprietary and hard-wired; for the new Ford EV they plan to use Best Buys Geek squad for installs and it's a portable unit that can be simply 'unplugged' if you move (the plug itself is very similar to an electric dryer one -- 220V) -- for the LEAF you would need to get it reinstalled. Check the mynissanleaf.com forum as they have actual owners that could tell you if they've run into this -- not sure if the 'portable' charger to be offered by Best Buy would work on the LEAF as it hasn't come out yet but I do like that from the get go Ford decided that its charger should be portable.

#81 of 116 Re: Home charger [early74b] by gagrice

Jun 24, 2011 (2:59 pm)

Replying to: early74b (Jun 24, 2011 2:21 pm)
Ford always has a better idea..
 
I am wondering if the charging stations being put in around the USA will be universal. The goofy ones they put in for the EV-1 were just for the EV-1 and are now all gone. Our tax dollars wasted.

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