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#7 of 18 2007 Outback
Mar 23, 2010 (3:31 pm)
Just got outback from a family member. 70,000 miles mostly highway. They did oil change every 5000. New tires at 60000. But thats the only maintennance they did. I brought to Subaru dealer they said needs new brakes and rotors front and back $860 and $480 service( 60,000). What do I really need to do if car is running fine . Going to mechanic, not dealer. How much should things cost in Massachusetts?
#8 of 18 Re: 2007 Outback [teacher13]
Mar 23, 2010 (4:49 pm)
At that mileage, it might need new brake pads, but I doubt it needs new rotors. In addition, it could likely use a new set of spark plugs and wires, run some fuel injector cleaner through the gas tank, definitely change the air filter (if this has not been done, which I cannot even imagine given the number of miles...), change out the tranny and differential fluids, inspect the belts and hoses for signs of aging, etc., and replace as necessary, and flushing the coolant may not be a bad idea. I can see spending $480 to thoroughly service this car and set a good "base point" for future maintenance.
The brake job is just ludicrous, though. If it needs all that, you would be feeling the front end wobble when you apply the brakes or be hearing the screech of metal-on-metal. On my '96 Outback, with many highway miles, I replaced the first set of front brake pads at about 125,000 and the first set of rears at 192,000. I did not replace any rotors and I drove it to 220,000 miles.
#9 of 18 Re: 2007 Outback [xwesx]
Mar 24, 2010 (1:14 pm)
Do a 60,000 service now, basically.
Change all the fluids to get a baseline.
Bleed the brakes, but check the rotors and pads before you replace anything. A simple clean up and bleeding of the fluid may be all it needs.
Mar 24, 2010 (11:04 pm)
860 seems like too much for brakes. even if rotors are slightly damanged by overly worn pads, cant they (rotors) be machined to make them smooth again? i had this done for 200 dollars for the rear rotors.
amazing to use one set of pads for almost 200,000 miles. in L.A. we use more brakes than you do, i guess.
#11 of 18 Re: pricy? [chriswanson]
Mar 25, 2010 (7:14 am)
It is a crazy amount of money. I bought good quality aftermarket pads and slotted, cryo treated rotors for the front of my '02 OBW for around $350. Of course, my labor rate is dirt cheap!
#12 of 18 Re: pricy? [fibber2]
Mar 25, 2010 (10:25 am)
I have never heard of a brake job (even at a shop) costing anywhere near $860. That's why I said it was insane. I think pads and rotors at 70,000 is unrealistic, even though the pads may need replacing, but possible. A quote of $860 to do the work, though, means I would be taking my car somewhere else.
Rotors can be machined if damage is minor, but doing so removes some of the material and makes them somewhat more susceptible to warping thereafter.
Also, with regard to the miles on my '96 Outback's brakes, I brought that up because the miles I put on that car were skewed toward the highway. Since you said the previous owner had a similar bias, I would expect wear to somewhat approximate my experience. Of course, if it was bumper-to-bumper traffic on a highway, that blows that theory out of the water.
#14 of 18 Re: pricy? [xwesx]
Mar 25, 2010 (6:40 pm)
I replaced the shocks, rotors, and brake pads at 180k. The rotors were ~$65 each, same price for front (ventilated) and rear (solid)! Pads were ~$58 per axle. (All prices mail order genuine Subaru parts, roughly one year ago.) Fortunately, Subaru bucks paid for all the parts and shipping.
Even working slowly, the rotors and pads shouldn't take more than 3-4 hours.
#15 of 18 Re: 2007 Outback [xwesx]
Feb 17, 2011 (2:43 pm)
About brakes, they are only EXPECTED to last around 36000 miles. If they last longer (and they often do) great, but 70000 is not too few miles to expect a brake rework. Also, most newer cars have such light (and therefore inexpensive) rotors making it more cost efficient to just buy new ones even of they had enough material to machine. Gone are the days of machining a rotor several times before replacing; you can only expect that on a truck anymore.
As far as hearing or feeling something, I disagree. I had a customer that had a rear brake pad fall out of the caliper so the only braking on that wheel was done by the piston/caliper bracket, and they had no idea.
Now as far as the price quoted is concerned, the dealership is asking way too much as most have already said.
#16 of 18 Re: 2007 Outback [fourthrowe]
Feb 17, 2011 (4:51 pm)
It all depends on how you drive it and how much attention you pay to how you drive it. 36,000 is a drop in the bucket and your example of the lost pad with no idea... well, there's no ownership requirement that one cannot be clueless.