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Infiniti M37, Sedan
#144 of 195 Re: NO problemo [bgardiner]
Aug 30, 2011 (8:32 pm)
Like a previous poster, I had a 2011 M37 on a 39 month lease. My problem with the car was that it drove nicely around town, but if I took it on an interstate and wanted to pass another car, I would put my foot on the accelerator to speed up and the car would pause while it searched for the correct gear to downshift into and even then it would jump around between gears. There is a service bulletin and infiniti applied it to my car, changing the shift points (and dropping the mpg) and it made the shifting a bit better, but the car still had significant lag when you caused it to downshift. I finally gave up and my dealer was terrific...and worked with me to come up with a minimal buyout cost. The m37 is now his.
The previous poster moved to a Hundai....I moved to a mercedes e 350 Bluetec (diesel) ($59000+ sticker price) on a 2 year lease (12K miles). The montly payment is actually less than I was paying on my Infiniti...and the mercedes is actually quieter than my M37.
(The 77% residual value and a $4000 discount on top of the dealers normal discount for buyers moving from infiniti to Mercedes made the low payments possible.....as with the infiniti lease, I paid the first months rent and registration costs up front...no "capital cost down payment"),
#145 of 195 Re: Quirky Transmission [m4m]
Sep 20, 2011 (10:29 am)
Thanks, my M is at the dealer now getting fixes for problems with the tilt down mirror feature and a problem with the steering wheel drifting downward
after programming the seat setting. I'll mention it to them when I pick up the car. This my third Infinity (the 1st two being G's) and will also probably be my last.
#146 of 195 The IS a problem!
Sep 23, 2011 (5:35 am)
I have a 2011 M37 that has 14K miles on it. The transmission problem is real and the symptoms confirmed by the head service guy at the dealer. However, Infiniti claims - the car is functioning as designed. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE. If I design a car to stall at 70 mph, that does not make it right. I drove an Acura for 20 years and wish I did not switch!!
Issues: 1) The shifts are very rough - especially at low acceleration 2) Car is slow to find the right gear when attempting to accelerate. THIS IS DANGEROUS! Your other option is to floor it and have the car racing. Either way, this is very unsettling. 3) Sport mode down shifts in very unexpected ways. 4) At time the car shifts with a "clunk" - the service tech was in the car when it did this as well.
The local dealers can do nothing but communicate the problem. You need to post issues and get Infiniti to fix this. Service tech said these are all problems related to the 7 speed trans (about 3 years old so you would think they got it right) and their ever increasing effor to improve fuel economy. At the expense of safety and confidence in the car? What??
Call Infiniti Consumer Affairs at 800-662-6200. Tell them they need to fix it. It is unacceptable to say "that is the way we designed the car"...
#147 of 195 Re: The IS a problem! [brian7042]
Sep 23, 2011 (9:08 am)
I had the same problems...and as I said in a previous post, I bought myself out of the lease 13 mos into a 39 mo lease. I also filed a NHTSA complaint because I felt that the almost stall when accelerating to pass a car on an interstate is a safety issue. If you feel that this is a safety issue, you might consider doing the same....
#148 of 195 Re: Quirky Transmission [drdanod]
Sep 23, 2011 (10:27 am)
It is so sad to hear of both the problems you are having and the response of both the dealer and Nissan/Infiniti at the corporate level. They seem to be doing the same song and dance routine my dealer did; there's nothing wrong with the car, the problem is the driver. That attitude can only lead to the downfall of both the dealer and the Infiniti brand.
When I started to complain about the transmission issues the dealer told me that I was the first they were hearing about this from. When I complained about the power windows opening after they were closed, or closing after they were opened, I got the same song and dance. Same thing with the quality of sound on the phone. Only this time they said it my phone not their car. Even though I replaced both M class Infiniti's in July I just got a recall notice for the power window issue and the bluetooth sound quality.
As long as Infiniti has their mindset that they only make perfect cars and the only mistake they make is selling/leasing one of their perfect cars to a less than perfect customer, they will be heading down the highway to doom like a run away train. You can't fix a problem if you refuse to admit you have the problem in the fist place.
As an aside, my two Hyundai Genesis 3.8 sedans have and eight speed transmission and couldn't be better. They are totally predictable and smooth as glass. While they are missing a few features my M-37 had they have many features my M-37 did not have and they cost $8000 (each) less. One thing I don't miss is the lousy dealer attitude. After five Infiniti's I'm done with them. I vote with my pocketbook!
The very best of luck to you. You are going to need it along with the patience of a saint.
#149 of 195 Re: Quirky Transmission [bienster]
Sep 23, 2011 (11:06 am)
Anyone know if Infiniti has released an updated fix for the transmission problem? I thought most of the issues were resolved when my dealer updated my car's ECM/TCM software a few months ago, but I'm noticing the same scary delayed-shift issue when driving at higher speeds. ...Like previous posts, I'm seeing the same 1-2 second hesitation when hitting the accelerator hard to pass someone... There's a delay before the car surges.. I'm starting to agree that it's a safty hazard.. So frustrating that they haven't fixed it yet!
#150 of 195 Re: Quirky Transmission [bienster]
Oct 06, 2011 (11:54 pm)
I have not received recall notice for power window & bluetooth sound quality.
Will you kindly let me know what it is?
Or post a notice?
Thanks in advance.
#151 of 195 Re: Quirky Transmission [rangoon1993]
Oct 07, 2011 (10:20 am)
The only reason I can think of that you did not receive the notice for the windows and bluetooth is that possibly your car already has the modifications. My car was one of the very earliest to hit the showrooms. It was leased in April of 2010. Besides all the transmission issues sometimes a window would open a few inches after being closed or go back up a few inches after being opened. Just like with everything else, they told me that I was the only person experiencing the problem and that I must be doing something wrong. They're nuts!!!
Over the years I've had 5 Infiniti's, 4 Lexus', 5 Mercedes, 1 Datsun 240Z, countless Nissan and Toyota products, and 1 Porche 944. I never had a window or transmission problem with any of them. The reason Infiniti can't get the problem resolved is that in their heart of hearts they believe the real problem is with their customers not their cars. They should never have released their bug infested cars for sale until they were reasonably defect free. I no longer have any Infiniti products. I got two fully loaded Hyundai Genesis 3.8 sedans and we couldn't be any happier. That's why I did not save the recall notice. What it said they would do is replace all the window switches and put in a better quality michrophone for the bluetooth.
As an aside, I almost got T-boned crossing a busy highway when my Infiniti hesitated for a few seconds before accelerating. It felt like a lifetime. It was then that I considered getting rid of the car. I think everyone who has had such an issue should file a safety report before someone gets killed.
#152 of 195 Re: Quirky Transmission [bienster]
Oct 09, 2011 (11:17 am)
Thanks for your reply~
Genesis has Aisin mission, it's smooth.....like Lexus
Wonder what kind of mission M37 has? and why are they not fixing it?
ECU, TCU update did not do anything but made reaction slower than before!
When I complained about engine almost stoped at a hill while driving slowly,,,,
They set up, in-take air control,,,, doing my idle at 750rpm
It was 600~650 before. What is this?
I guess it happened because mission problem, locked to higher gear instead of proper gear. But tweaked idle set up.
After software update, rpm tends to be unstable ranging 600~1200 in a low speed...specially while I'm parking. It just moves up and down without my intention. Oh~wow~ made a reservation with a service center to show them and see what their reaction is.
#153 of 195 Re: Quirky Transmission [rangoon1993]
Oct 09, 2011 (3:35 pm)
I'm so sorry to hear of your continuing travails with the transmission issue. I still think they really don't have their hearts into the repair. They had this problem with the transmission in the G-37 a year before they put it in the M. I don't know why they thought that a transmission/engine combination that would not work right in a lighter car would work in a heavier car. It would appear that their engineering department has their heads up their rear ends. This is just not the way to keep your loyal customer base and get new customers.
I've lived in Palm Beach County, Florida for about 8 years. For the first 5 years or so I thought Infiniti was "the official car of Palm Beach." We had 5 of them on my block alone counting my 2. We are now down to one Infiniti. They are not selling well. I've seen just one 2011/2012 M in the past several months on the road. Since they redesigned the lights and exhausts on the 2012 Hyundai they are easy to spot. I can't count how many I've seen. After having tue luxury brands for the last 25 years or so I can't believe I'm relishing Hyundai ownership. My only wish is that they had a seperate stand alone facility for the Genesis/Equess line. Short of that they have really done a fantastic job with the 2012's. Unlike Infiniti who seems to have tried to see how much they could take out of the cars, Hyundai seems to have tried to see how how much they could get in to their cars. Between my lousy dealer experience with Infiniti of Coconut Creek and the awful experience with the M, after 5 Infiniti's I'm sad to say that I'll never go back. The car brand stopped being fun and stated becoming nerve wracking. I want to enjoy my car and have confidence in it rather than dread of what it is going to do next and how lousy the dealer will treat me.
Too bad; good bye Infiniti.