Last post on Nov 12, 2012 at 12:52 PM
You are in the Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis
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Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Heating / Cooling
#18 of 26 Re: car frame [shrimpsalad]
Oct 17, 2012 (3:06 pm)
there is no practical fix short of a total rebuild of the car by a specialty shop.
#19 of 26 2001 Grand Marquis tracking bad
Nov 12, 2012 (12:52 pm)
#20 of 26 2001 Grand Marquis tracking bad
Nov 06, 2012 (10:04 pm)
Hi. I bought this LS with 25K miles recently in mint condition, very well maintained. I put new Michelin Symmetry tires (same as original) all around on the first day, just because of the age of the originals.
The problem is that I hate driving this car. It's like walking with a drunk. You have to constantly make corrections, nudge it this way,nudge it back the other way, stop at a light and start through it again- you have to make two corrections before you get through the intersection.
I had an alignment done. Everything was in order and very tight (as you'd expect with this mileage).
I read some reviews from 2001 and I read "handles like the USS Nimitz" and other derogarory comments, and I see that Ford spent millions upgrading to rack-and-pinion in 2003, so they must have been quite aware of the problem.
Do others experience this problem? Is there a solution? Maybe a steering geer from one with the handling pkg? Different tires? Change the alignment Caster or something?
Best car I've ever had but unfortunately I really hate the way it tracks! Thanks- BA
#21 of 26 Re: 2001 Grand Marquis tracking bad [brianalex]
Nov 07, 2012 (11:37 am)
Is there a solution?
Yes - it is driving & trying the car out BEFORE you pay for it.
Nov 09, 2012 (7:15 am)
I'll tell ya, if you've always driven rack and pinion cars a recirculating ball is a lot different. A problem? Cars have been using recirculating ball style systems since forever.
I've got a 03 and a 85 and the 03 is much tighter, but actually feels like it needs more correction at highway speeds. It's an impression thing - because there is a bit of slack in the old system, and very little in the new, the new feels twitchy. I can see why a younger driver would find the 01 a bit barge like. It is.
The only things I can think of is, you can have a Ford mechanic check the lash adjustment on the steering box (don't overtighten it!), or the big one - have a box from a P71 (police package) Crown Victoria fitted on it. The police steering boxes are a LOT tighter, and bolt right in (you might, might, need a fitting on the fluid lines, I can' t remember, but no big deal).
Most rebuilt boxes are NOT police package so be careful if you decide to go this route. It appears ACDELCO 360816569 *might* be correct - I'd call to verify. Iirc the police package boxes do not have a snap ring holding the output shaft seal, and the regular ones do.
It's possible that a loose suspension is adding to the slop impression as well. KYB gas-a-just shocks will stiffen these cars up nicely, and for a bit more use the P71 ones. I've also used cargo coils (variable rate) rear springs (very easy to change) in all my full size Fords, they really help flatten them out on long turns, like highway ramps. You can also swap police package front and rear sway bars onto it (they're bigger). To go whole hog have your control arm bushings upgraded to Energy Polyurethane
It's a great car. Good luck.
#24 of 26 Much Thanks...
Nov 09, 2012 (12:39 pm)
I really appreciate the info Bart. I may try the steering gear.
The thing is I don't remember this during the brief test drive and I replaced the ancient tires the first day. I've added a few pounds pressure (39 lbs front)and that seems to help a bit.
My first car was a '64 Galaxie with 32K and I've had a 75 Olds Regency (455 ci) and never noticed this type of problem. But for the last 12 years I've been driving a Toyota Cressida Wagon that handled like it was on rails so maybe that "spoiled" me, haha. This Merc. is like a brand new car and the ol' lady is tickled pink with every aspect of it (she doesn't drive), so I will follow your suggestions and upgrade the shocks and maybe the gear. Thanks- Brian
Nov 12, 2012 (10:16 am)
You've had some nice cars!
Just a note - the suspension will make it feel tighter perhaps, but the only thing that will actually tighten it up is the box.
Also, upgraded rear control arms are available for the WATTS rear end and are supposed to make a HUGE difference - I'm looking forward to changing mine. When James May said it handled like it has a hinge in the middle, it's supposed to fix that.
#26 of 26 Re: ggggg [bartbarter] Rear Arms Added to list. Thx!-BA
Nov 12, 2012 (12:52 pm)