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#291 of 300 Re: canada [luvinlife7890]
by scoutyjones2
Mar 04, 2013 (12:36 pm)
I know this is for Hyundai, their step sister, but Kia may join in, posted on MSN 4 days ago :
Owners can opt for a lump-sum payment or discounts at a Hyundai dealer. Kia's lawsuits are still pending.
Hyundai will settle a class-action lawsuit after advertising incorrect fuel-economy estimates on about 600,000 cars sold in the U.S., according to court documents filed earlier this week.
In November, when the Environmental Protection Agency discovered fraudulent estimates on 75 Hyundai and Kia models from 2011 to 2013, several car owners sued both companies (Kia is a subsidiary of Hyundai). The latest case filed in the Central District court of California has combined all 38 suits into one, according to Automotive News.
The actual amount of the proposed settlement was not disclosed, although one individual suit wanted $775 million in damages to be paid. Kia is not part of the settlement but may join it, the report said.
Before this settlement, Hyundai and Kia quickly responded with a lifetime cash reimbursement program to pay all affected owners the difference in gas money for as long as they own the cars. Owners have already signed up to receive preloaded debit cards each year depending on their annual mileage. Hyundai and Kia plan to pay out about $225 million and $187 million respectively.
In total, about 900,000 owners are affected and stand to benefit from either payout.
Owners who choose to be part of the settlement can no longer receive annual payments from the automaker. Instead, Hyundai owners can take a lump-sum payment, a service credit at a Hyundai dealer worth 150 percent of the lump-sum payment or a cash rebate valid on a new Hyundai equal to 200 percent of the lump-sum payment.
Annual debit-card payments vary by state gas prices and model -- some saw their EPA ratings drop more than others -- but for a Californian owner of a 2012 Elantra driving 20,000 miles per year, the payout would be about $89, according to Automotive News.
Ford is under an EPA investigation for similar claims that it inflated fuel-economy estimates on its C-Max and Fusion Hybrid models. Lawsuits are also pending.
Mar 05, 2013 (2:40 pm)
thank you.. im thinking of just selling it.. but will keep my eyes open and go one msn
#293 of 300 Re: Don't buy if fuel economy is important to you! [travlingirl]
by wbernhardt
Mar 10, 2013 (7:24 am)
First of all they did not say you will get 32 miles to the gallon driving 70 miles an hour. If you drive 60 miles per hour you will notice a difference. If you back down driving 55 miles per hour on 55 speed limit road, you will get better yet. Why don't you try and drive 85 on the open highway and see if your mileage drops more. Anyone knows driving faster and stomping on your gas pedal will decrease your mileage. Next time ask at what speed you will get that mileage.
Best of luck.
Mar 10, 2013 (8:16 am)
i drive like an old lady... no gas pedal to the metal... im off to montreal in a few days straight hwy .. we shall see what i get.. i just managed 389 km for my last full tank.. (ouch) at 75$ to fill.. come spring i may take the hit and sell on kijiji and find something def not awd.. and a 4 cyl.. i heard there is a class action suit here in CAN but cant find anyinfo on it.. so if anyone knows could you please let me know.. thanks
#295 of 300 Re: Don't buy if fuel economy is important to you! [wbernhardt]
by scoutyjones2
Mar 10, 2013 (8:32 am)
People can defend KIA all they want but when it comes down to it, they got busted and tried to half heartedly make amends. While many of us claim/can show that the mileage is worse than what they fess up to, we have the right to feel poorly about KIA. I have had plenty of cars that met, sometimes even exceeded the MPG EPA estimates under the same comfortable driving habits I still use...
To add my misgivings about KIA, I note that the Soul was discounted dramatically (6 MPGS?), and they advertise a special price on the 2013 Sorento on a TV commercial here, while showing a 2014 model which is 80% new material...it comes across as "dirty."
#296 of 300 Re: law suit [luvinlife7890]
by wbernhardt
Mar 10, 2013 (8:49 am)
I know that is a bummer when you spend that kind of money and don't get what they suggest( in perfect weather) These vehicles could and should be getting 50 mpg but the gov has control on this and are making money on us buying more oil and gas. It is only going to get worse if we have the gov control everything. I have noticed that if you want great mileage you have to get the smallest engine and 2WD and a stick shift. But who wants to buy a stick.
Have a good week.
#297 of 300 Re: Don't buy if fuel economy is important to you! [scoutyjones2]
by wbernhardt
Mar 10, 2013 (8:58 am)
Thank you for that information. I was actually going to look at the Kia sorento but have changed my mind now. I will keep looking also. Toyota and Honda and Subaru are my next ventures. The outback sounds good.
#298 of 300 Re: law suit [luvinlife7890]
by par732
Mar 10, 2013 (11:59 am)
Kia finally took my Sorrento and asked the dealer to test drive and establish the actual day to day driving mileage and after they kept the car for a day they reported that the best they can do is 19 MPG combined City/Highway (6 miles less than advertised #) and much less for the city. Then Kia called and told me to go screw myself because functionally there is nothing wrong with the car. I will wait to see what comes out of the class action lawsuit. Otherwise my mission in life is to inform people of the situation and if I convince one person not to buy Kia I am happy I am satisfied. I am trading this car with Toyota Highlander and convimced my brother to do the same thing.
Good luck everyone.
#299 of 300 Re: Don't buy if fuel economy is important to you! [wbernhardt]
by joehick
Mar 11, 2013 (8:50 am)
Your right, they stated we would get 28mpg highway, not that far off. And by the way Mileage was a key part of the buying element in my decision.
I have posted here since day 1 that the mileage sucks. I have driven my vechicle at all speeds in many different situations and come up with the same mileage I have always recieved. I am lucky if I get 12-14 city and maybe 18-20 highway. And yes that is at 55mph
#300 of 300 40,000 miles
by lanshi
Mar 11, 2013 (10:04 am)
I am up to 40,000+ miles and the mpg is still the same 26/27. I DO NOT PUT MY FOOT INTO IT as I drive 128 miles a day so I can't afford to waste gasoline. KIA dealerships could care less about the consumer believe me. Everytime I take it in I question it and they say they are still trying to do right. I have told them to forget it they will never do right in my books, they just plain and simple lied to us all. DON'T BUY A KIA SORENTO AND I ALWAYS SAY DON'T BUY A KIA THEY LIE TO YOU.