Last post on Nov 12, 2010 at 9:18 AM
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#17 of 21 Re: 2010 Toyota 4Runner Engineer Concerns [tsu670]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Apr 28, 2010 (10:26 pm)
that the problem could very well be driver error as in the Audi case decades ago does a disservice to Edmunds.com readers.
It was two decades ago, and the jury is still out. Literally. After ~22 years of court appeals, the original Audi SUA case is back before a jury in Illinois. Or was as of last October - haven't heard anything lately. Audi Sudden Acceleration.
I think that's the link that says the US, Canada and Japan also blamed the Audi SUA on operator error. But the Swedes blamed the cruise control.
There's more Toyota SUA talk over in the Toyota on the mend for 2010? discussion. There's more "technical" talk about SUA in general in the Unintended Acceleration - Find the Cause discussion.
#18 of 21 Re: Not worried [mobjack]
May 09, 2010 (12:10 pm)
You should worry! On May 5, 2010, our 2008 Toyota 4runner exhibited sudden unintended acceleration. Wife was sitting waiting to make a right turn with foot on brake and transmission in drive. Engine speed suddenly increased and the car was out of control for about 800 feet. Nobody hurt and nothing damaged. This is our second 4runner and until this incident we loved them. Toyota came and got it and gave us a loaner. They are going to run tests, but I expect them to be skeptical just like some of the previous posts. There is nothing Toyota can do or say that will make us comfortable in this vehicle again. I was thinking about trading it for a Honda Pilot until I read that it has done it too. I think all the newer cars with throttle by wire can have this problem. We have absolutely no reason to bad mouth Toyota or any other car. However, no matter what tests they perform this problem did happen!!!! The 4runner has 21K and no returns to the dealer until this for anything.
#19 of 21 Re: 2010 Toyota 4runner Engineer Concerns [friedgreen]
May 09, 2010 (12:51 pm)
See my post where our 2008 had SUA on May 5, 2010.
#20 of 21 Re: 2010 Toyota 4runner Engineer Concerns [smsgtretired]
May 09, 2010 (4:38 pm)
Thank you for replying and sharing your story. My experience has been that expressing concern about SUA in the 4Runner is not well-received in certain circles. While I've not traded my new 2010 (purchased in January) it is not for lack of trying. I just cannot stomach the extreme loss in value. I am hoping for a solution from Toyota (class action induced and court enforced) which will take the car back or some other remedy reflecting the extraordinary loss in value following Toyota's total failure to tell the truth. I just keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.
#21 of 21 Re: 2010 Toyota 4runner Engineer Concerns [friedgreen]
Nov 12, 2010 (9:18 am)
Follow the money...the U.S. is only going to bite down so hard on Toyota, as the company represents billions of dollars to the U.S. economy. I think the storm is over and any lingering tort actions will only line the lawyers pockets. I don't mean to sound jaded, as I too have issues with Toyota (see forum 'toyota 4 runner transmission problems). But the more I read about other Toyota problems and experiences, including my own I'm convinced its time to sell, regardless of the loss of value and move on. I have never owned a Toyota product and when I decided to buy one, it was in no small measure because I believed the company made a reliable, well built car. Well maybe they did at one time, but regretfully I don't think that standard is met in their vehicles today....Mitch