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#2 of 38 Re: Japan's Cash For Clunkers Program [rockylee]
Feb 04, 2010 (6:48 am)
Crybabies. The domestics could submit their models for Japanese fuel economy testing like everyone else (and fail those tests miserably), but instead they threw a hissy fit and got an exemption to use EPA numbers.
#3 of 38 Re: Japan's Cash For Clunkers Program [bumpy]
Feb 04, 2010 (10:12 am)
The Japanese, are doing absolutely everything and have for years to keep our Big 3 out of there country. They did it with our motorcycles and I hate to admit this but Reagan did tariff Japanese bikes in the 80's. We need to hammer their butts!!!!
#4 of 38 Re: Japan's Cash For Clunkers Program [rockylee]
Feb 04, 2010 (10:39 am)
Looking at the cars available on the Japanese market, why does anyone think they would want US domestic market products? It's not like they are going to run out and buy a factory shift's volume of Cobalts and Calibers.
#5 of 38 Re: Japan's Cash For Clunkers Program [rockylee]
Feb 04, 2010 (10:46 am)
What for? The Japanese market has been declining for years, and in any given month something between a third and half of what does sell is the size of a smart car. The US domestics make nothing that could appeal to Japanese consumers and their wallets in any quantity, and the US domestics already satisfy the boutique market for giant US gas guzzlers via the exemptions for low-volume imports. (And it should be noted that no reciprocal arrangement exists in the US.)
It's nice that you think Japanese should buy 100,000 Malibus every year, but that's simply not practical nor desirable for the overwhelming majority of the country.
#6 of 38 Cash for Clunkers - Japan Style
Feb 04, 2010 (4:59 pm)
In the USA we opened up the market and allowed US consumers to buy imported or made in USA cars and they received the benefits.
In Japan, consumers were recently offered cash for clunkers but were required to buy made in Japan cars. Our US trade reps and WTO and US politicians should have been screaming foul but did nothing.
If you ever wondered how the USA has been sold out to foreign interests over the past decades this action illustrates exactly how we've all been sold out by our own politicians.
I doubt if few Americans were made aware of this by our multi-national corporate owned media.
#7 of 38 Re: Cash for Clunkers - Japan Style [surrfurtom]
Feb 04, 2010 (6:17 pm)
How many American cars would have sold, seeing as the Japanese consumer doesn't buy mass market American cars to begin with?
#8 of 38 Re: Cash for Clunkers - Japan Style [fintail]
Feb 04, 2010 (6:57 pm)
Unfortunately, that has been the message sent by our own government for decades that has worked to the detriment of the USA. It was "why should we fight to open their trade barriers when they don't want our products anyway".
Had our own government been fighting and demanding for fair and equal trade for American products for these past decades, we'd be exporting them many more of our cars instead of the one way street that has persisted and exists.
It is our own government that has worked against America and American workers and industry.
#9 of 38 Re: Cash for Clunkers - Japan Style [surrfurtom]
Feb 04, 2010 (7:01 pm)
Which American cars could be sold in viable quantity in Japan, given their road system and cost of motoring? Have you been there or seen what sells there? I can't think of many cars that would sell in anything more than a handful here and there. They aren't going to snap up our Malibus and Avengers when they have so many competent products already. I am all for fair trade, but I don't see any kind of wrong here. You can't export what isn't demanded.
Europe is much more open to American cars, and they barely sell there, too.
#10 of 38 Re: Cash for Clunkers - Japan Style [fintail]
Feb 06, 2010 (9:20 am)
Fintail, it's the principle of the matter. I know the Japanese, are a very nationalistic society and the Big 3 might not sell large numbers of cars to the Japanese. However again it's the principle of the matter and who knows they might snap of some Buick LaCrosses, Volts, etc, if ou products weren't basically banned from there country.
My point is I as an american am sick and tired of it being a one way street on these free trade agreeements and this type of stuff is why I'm so strongly opposed to "Free Trade" as we know it!!!!