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Kia Optima, Future Vehicle, Sedan
#181 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [m6user]
Sep 20, 2010 (10:50 am)
I'm pretty spoiled too and I own a 2001 VW Jetta. If cars in service 3 years are having trouble then what can you do? I've decided that unless I hear bad things in reviews or dont like it in person after a solid test drive, I'm not going to let the 1st year thing factor in very much. If there is another car out there I like nearly as much that's a different story of course.
I can live with a few flaws so long as they are fixable.
#182 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [dash5]
Sep 20, 2010 (10:58 am)
I kind of like your leasing idea. Have never leased before and in IL you have pay a ton of sales tax upfront(I believe on the whole sale price, not total of lease payments) which has turned me away from leasing. But in this case it may make sense. If the car is great and you love it, either buy it or turn it in and buy a 2014! That's food for thought.
#183 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [m6user]
Sep 20, 2010 (11:13 am)
Yeah I'd have to do the math on a lease because I've never done one before either but... it's a possibility. Like you said if I like it keep it or trade up, if not, well onward and upward.
#184 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [m6user]
Sep 20, 2010 (12:49 pm)
Hyundai has been in the US market now for 25 years. That is likely long enough to have learned a thing or two. Plus, cars like everything else have more and more become like electronic devices with many solid state components. If it is a little scary (and it is), wait awhile. But the market is moving very fast now, faster than ever. New design techniques allow it, and the consumer market demands it. Any brand that doesn't move fast in this climate is not going to make it, longer-term.
#185 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [m6user]
Sep 20, 2010 (3:50 pm)
Toyota's reputation didn't help owners avoid problems in the recent past, did it?
Here's something that gives you an idea how obsessed Hyundai/Kia is with quality. Recently Kia recalled 100,000 cars worldwide (35k in the US) for wiring problems. Nothing too special there, recalls happen all the time. The response was unusual, though: Kia's CEO resigned because of it, taking responsibility for the gaffe in quality.
With that kind of focus on quality and avoiding defects, I would tend to trust Hyundai/Kia there as much if not moreso than any other automaker. Also, I have 10 total years of ownership experience with 3 Hyundais that has demonstrated to me how reliable these cars are. And two of these cars were designs from the 1990s, which are less reliable than what they are turning out now.
But if you think you would second-guess yourself for buying a Kia, and worry about when the first defect will show up, maybe better for you to get something else. One of those perfect mid-sized sedans out there. Like a... uh... never mind.
Sep 20, 2010 (9:40 pm)
backy's right, Kia and Hyundai have arrived, quality-wise. You've got nothing to worry about. Every carmaker builds some duds. Someone disgruntled could leave a wrench in the works somewhere, for instance. Like what really happens at my former employer, The Boeing Company of Everett, WA. The IAM Union has some really, should I say, rugged individuals. Individuals who feel warranted to stand up and be counted in amidst all of the out-sourcing and hardball antics the planemaker throws their way. Boeing is not a nice company to work for. I know. I was laid off twice from them. But they do succeed and I have to respect them for that. Alan Mulally, current Fo-Mo-Co CEO, was the CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes while I was there. I am really impressed with the job he did there at Boeing's and now the job he is doing at Ford.
My point is that there are always going to be some unforseeables with manufactured products. The reassuring thing with Kia and Hyundai and Mitsubishi is their Warranty. They will expect you to maintain your vehicle and if you do, you'll be fully completely covered in your 2011 Kia Optima.
Do you still want that red? Red, red, I like red, red's the one that I like best. Technicolor red. Oh yeah. Keep us posted man, you're desiring a very, very well-built and fine car in the 2011 Kia Optima.
#187 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [dash5]
Sep 20, 2010 (10:57 pm)
My favorite part of that site is the background music LOL
I will check out the Optima Turbo when I'm ready to buy a car next January. I hope they will be available for test drives by then. It'll be interesting to see how it stacks up against it's German 2.0T competitors in the Regal and CC.
Speaking of which, there ought to be a 4cyl turbo sedan comparison. The Sonata, Optima, Regal, CC, Legacy and perhaps the S60 T5.
Sep 21, 2010 (3:33 am)
is a German competitor? Am I missing something here?
#189 of 882 Re: The Buick Regal... [iluvmysephia1]
Sep 21, 2010 (4:27 am)
Yeah the Buick Regal is a rebadged Opel Insignia, a German car. It's also made in Germany currently as far as I remember. Due to be moved to Canada shortly.
But yes I'm still fully planning to get a Red Optima SX just like the one pictured, assuming I like it in person of course. Probably different rims though, we'll see. I'm not so much nervous about Kia, it's just the first year thing. Honestly, I know it's a bit paranoid though.
I wish it would just come out already!
#190 of 882 news on the launch
Sep 21, 2010 (6:51 am)
according to Kia Motors America Facebook page:
The PR team is launching the all-new 2011 Kia Optima this week in Southern Cal and welcomes our journalists. We'll keep you posted with the news and reviews.
new details on the Kia US website introducing the new Optima